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  • Quran 4:34 – Beating Wife And Ghamidi Sahab's Understanding

    Posted by Amaan Zia on January 8, 2025 at 8:42 pm

    Respectfully I Disagree with Ghamdi sahab:

    He interpreted both the Reference incorrectly.

    1- He Refers Surah An-Nisa (4:34)

    “الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ”

    Ghamdi Sahab misinterpreted to mean that men have rulership (حکمران) over women. However, the term “قَوَّامُونَ” is derived from ق-و-م (qiwama), which means to maintain, protect, or support, not to dominate or rule.

    • Evidence from the Verse:

    1. Surah An-Nisa (4:34) “بِمَا أَنفَقُوا مِنْ أَمْوَالِهِمْ”). Men are tasked with financial responsibility

    2.Surah An-Nisa (4:135)

    “يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ”

    •Meaning: “O you who believe! Be steadfast in justice.”

    2- Misinterpretation of “وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ” in Surah An-Nisa (4:34)

    The word “وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ”, as the Quranic usage of the root ض-ر-ب and prophetic guidance reveals that the Quran does not advocate violence against women.•But uses as Metaphorical Meanings of “وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ”:

    • Separate or distance: In line with other Quranic uses, such as in Surah Al-Kahf (18:11), where “فَضَرَبْنَا عَلَىٰ آذَانِهِمْ” refers to “putting them to sleep,” indicating a non-physical action.

    1-Surah Al-Baqarah (2:273)

    “يَضْرِبُونَ فِي الْأَرْضِ”• Meaning: “Travel through the land.• Context: Refers to people who go about the earth in pursuit of livelihood or knowledge.

    Surah An-Nahl (16:75)

    “ضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا”•

    Meaning: “Allah sets forth an example.”•

    Context: Used for the act of presenting a parable or analogy.

    Surah Al-Kahf (18:11)

    “فَضَرَبْنَا عَلَىٰ آذَانِهِمْ”•

    Meaning: “We covered their ears (caused them to sleep).”• Context: Describes the People of the Cave being put into a deep sleep by Allah.

    Surah Al-Hadid (57:13)

    “فَضُرِبَ بَيْنَهُم بِسُورٍ”•

    Meaning: “A wall will be placed between them.”•

    Context: Refers to the separation of believers and hypocrites on the Day of Judgment.

    Surah Al-Baqarah (2:26)

    “إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَسْتَحْيِي أَن يَضْرِبَ مَثَلًا”•

    Meaning: “Allah is not ashamed to set forth an example.”•

    Context: Used in the context of Allah providing parables to make concepts clear.

    Conclusion

    The Quran never advocates for male rulership over women or violence against them.

    1. “الرِّجَالُ قَوَّامُونَ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ” establishes men as protectors and maintainers due to specific functional responsibilities, not as rulers.

    2. “وَاضْرِبُوهُنَّ” is best understood metaphorically, as separation or symbolic disapproval, supported by the Quran’s linguistic usage and prophetic practice.

    3. The Quran consistently emphasizes justice, kindness, and compassion in relationships, negating any interpretation that justifies harm or subjugation.

    The misinterpretations arise from cultural biases and tafaseer that do not align with the Quran’s spirit of equality and justice. The proper understanding of these verses reaffirms that Islam upholds dignity and mutual respect for both men and women.

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 1 week, 3 days ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Quran 4:34 – Beating Wife And Ghamidi Sahab's Understanding

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar January 9, 2025 at 12:43 am

    The English rendering of the translation of the Ghamidi saheb for the cited verse goes: “men are made in charge”. Men are made the head of the family. You may name it anything else, but the fact stays the same.

    You may need to learn the grammatical rules to understand how language works. The word when used by prepositions becomes idioms. The words, “Give” and “Give up” do not have the same meaning or even do not have a meaning close to each other.

    When ضرب is used without a preposition, it means to hit, but it has other meanings when used with a preposition.

  • Amaan Zia

    Member January 9, 2025 at 3:10 pm

    Your Argument on ضرب and Its Meaning

    The claim that ضرب means “to hit” when used without a preposition, and only changes meaning with a preposition, is inaccurate and ignores the linguistic diversity of the root ض-ر-ب in the Quran.

    Examples:

    • Quranic Usage of ضرب Without a Preposition:

    • ضرب appears in the Quran without prepositions with meanings that are metaphorical or non-violent. Examples include:

    1. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:60): “فَقُلْنَا اضْرِب بِعَصَاكَ الْحَجَرَ” (“Strike the stone with your staff”) – Here, it refers to an action of bringing forth water, not violence.

    2. Surah Al-Kahf (18:11): “فَضَرَبْنَا عَلَىٰ آذَانِهِمْ” (“We covered their ears”) – Here, ضرب means “to place or impose,” in this case, sleep, showing a non-physical usage.

    3. Surah An-Nahl (16:75): “ضَرَبَ اللَّهُ مَثَلًا” (“Allah sets forth an example”) – ضرب means “to present” or “set forth.”

    • Context of ضرب in Surah An-Nisa (4:34):

    • The Quran prohibits harm and emphasizes kindness:

    • Surah Al-Baqarah (2:231): “Do not retain them (wives) to harm them.”

    • Surah An-Nisa (4:19): “Live with them in kindness.”

    • Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) explicitly condemned violence against women:

    • “The best of you are those who are best to their wives.” (Sunan At-Tirmidhi, Hadith 1162)

    Before asking me kindly learned yourself 1st. How Arabic linguistics works, its not Urdu or English.

    Arabic is a waseeh zabaan it has depth and no language can justify its aspect.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar January 10, 2025 at 1:38 am

    The examples quoted under the heading, “Quranic Usage of ضرب Without a Preposition:” are mostly wrong. Please learn from authentic sources of language and how words are used to give different meanings.

    The verse under discussion does not mean violence. This is under the condition of teaching a lesson, not beating.

    This is our understanding, you may keep yours. Period.

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