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What Was The Point Of The Book – Islam. – A Concise Introduction By JAG
Few days back during the introduction of book completion Ilm un nabi (part of hadith project) Hasan ilyas sb said that now its not possible to reject hadith. Anyone who rejects hadith will eventually reject quran. If this was the case then what was the point of the book – Islam. – A Concise Introduction written by Ghamidi sir ? Ghamidi sir wrote book about Islam without referencing hadith.
Islam exists without the sayings of people observing the prophet. Islam foundation is the message brought by messenger of Allah not the sayings of people observing the messenger of allah and transmitting it without any context.
Why did hasan ilyas sb say that rejecting hadith would be like rejecting the quran. ?
If uswa e hasana of prophet was in hadith then what was the meaning of the hazrat ayesha statement that prophets character was the quran – https://sunnah.com/urn/2303060.
Is uswa e hasana of the prophet incomplete without the hadith collection muslims have ?
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What Was The Point Of The Book – Islam. – A Concise Introduction By JAG
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Is akbhaar e ahad and Quran the same that If rejecting akhbaar e ahad then it would be like rejecting the mutawattir quran ?
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The point made by Hassan sb was
“Every Prophet saying is according to Quran directives and none of them found to be against Quran. Since they have proved it with their work that Quran directives were implemented by Prophet according to that situation so now rejecting it will be like rejecting Quran”
He didnt say Hadith and Quran has become equal. Quran is still supreme authority for us in deen
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Ahsan Jalal sb, could you please provide context about “Every Prophet saying….” . I am asking this because this hadith – https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3470 is not according to the quranic values of justice. If a person reject this hadith then would he be like a quran rejecter ?
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Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabic
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First, it needs to be established that it is actually saying of Prophet saw. For this particular hadith, there is a missing link. It doesnt need to be understood because of missing in Isnad.
However, from my perspective, this hadith implies that God is merciful and there is a chance of repentance till end. -
Yes, I agree but what if a person rejects hadith knowing that Imam Bukhari was not a nabi or prophet because Sahih bukhari is his personal work and his personal perspective of oral tradition which was going unpreserved for 150-180 years. If such a person rejects hadith based on this grounds would he be called a rejecter of quran ?
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Also, why is quran even compared to other sources of deen, why hadith considered a source of deen when prophet was not responsible for it? Quran is the only book which has approval and attestation of the Allah, Gabriel and his messenger. Does any book have the right to compete with this type of approval? How are chain of narrators of quran comparable to the chain of narrators of hadith ? Does the chain of narrators of hadith have the attestation and approval of Allah ?
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I think the confusion you have is because of Hassan Ilyas sb statement.
Even he didnt say Quran and hadees are equal. What he meant was What Prophet said is actually explanation or acts according to Quran in that period of time.
What he meant to say was” if any one claim that hadiths are independent and devoid of Quranic context, that person is wrong.
He has explained in his latest video on ilm ul nabi. Please watch that
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Yes, Inshallah. I will see the latest video but in the old and introductory video – https://youtu.be/DdetpBh2Sz0?si=oR0xwksFZ_KChOnU.
Timestamp – 2:30 –3:40 is quite confusing because it gives too much importance to hadith instead of quran. I am no scholar to criticise Hasan Ilyas sb but I am just trying to say that the line from 2:30 — 3:40 feels like hadith is very important for Islam without it prophets knowledge would not have been preserved. Somone can clip this 1 minute and say that even hasan ilyas sb agrees that hadith is important source of religion.
That 1 minute should have ended with mutawattir sunnah but ended with the conclusion that its akhbaar e ahad hadiths.
Also the video thumbnail sets a context of the content of video. It reads that inkaar hadith ke liye inkaar quran karan padega.
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I agree the title is a click bait and can induce wrong impression. But rest assure, gcil still consider Quran as supreme authority for our understanding.
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