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Who Sent The Quran?
Is there any way for us to confirm that the Quran is not a part of a scientific experiment by aliens or some other civilisation? I’m just wondering if there’s any way we can refute this possibility.
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Who Sent The Quran?
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Jab tak humein aliens k hone ka sorag nai mil jata 😁
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Until then what? I am serious about this possibility and it has been plaguing my mind for a bit now
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agar aap quraan pe yaqeen rakhte hai to vo khud is baat ko bayan karta hai ke vo kiski taraf se hai.
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But that would be a non academic way of looking at things. It’s a bias essentially. If someone comes and tells you ‘God told me this’ you will not believe it. What allows us to take this at face value
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aap to us waqt ke mushriko ke si baat kar rahe hai,vo bhi ye kahte the ke ham kaise mane ye nabi to ham jaise hi hai hamare sath chalte phirte hai koi farishta hota to ham manty,to allah ne farmaya agar farista bhi hota or saheefy bhi nazil hote deekhle tabbhi ye nahi manenge,jinke baat aap kar rahe hai vo someone nahi aakhiri paighambar hai,ye manna to imaan ke liye lazim hai.ham imaan rakhte hue aise sawal karte hai ye taajjub hota hai.
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Ok. I’m not talking about the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم . I’m talking about the being that gave him the book and gave him the revelation
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badi ajeeb baat hai ke prophet ko man rahe hai lakin unhe jo paigham diya gaya hai use nahi man rahe,ye kon sa manna hai bhaii
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I accept that the sender of the Quran is non human. That is what we can ascertain given the circumstances of its revelation and its contents. What proof is there that it was given by the ultimate creator who we term God, rather than an alien or higher civilisation as a part of an experiment?
That is my simple question. My personal stance is irrelevant in this case
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aap pehle surah ikhlaas ko samjhe,jaha tak hame maloom hai quraan me hai ke shaitan insano ko un cheezo me mubtila kar deta hai jo haqeeqat se bht dur hoti hai,jisse vo ulajhta chala jaye or haqeeqat uske samne hote hue bhi vazeh na ho paye, aap ka sawal kuch aisa hi hai.us khuda ne aqal de hai to iska use kis direction me kiye jawab dena hoga.
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Ok
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Quran was revealed to Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم and he asked the sahabas to write it down and since then it’s been transferring from people to people with no doubt just as any book of knowledge such as Pluto’s allegory of the cave. People know that is the book written by Pluto because every generation testified to that. If we challenge this then no knowledge of science or history or philosophy can be proved legit. On the top Muslims have memorized it by heart and recite it in their prayers which they prayed everyday and in qatamul lail or each ramadan. So once you agree upon that yes this is the book given by prophet Muhammad, then you can raise the question who gave it to Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم . This is established history that Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم did not know how to read or write so it is legit that he was given the book some being. And to know about that being you read what that being is saying in His text. It can’t be a scientific experiment because at that age there was no concept of science whatsoever. Plus the sceintific knowledge can be challenged and can be improved once proved wrong. But this book is true to all his aspects weather if it talks about future predictions such as “gulibatil rum” or any established sientific fact such as “kalakal insan ma alaq” (which science discovered after a long long time). And if we talk about aliens so no foriegn creature has been showed up yet and claimed that it sent this book so no chance to think about it.
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There is still a chance of it. We have the logical possibility of humans testing eg ants and other animals in controlled situations so we can do qiyas
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In Zavia e Ghamdi, Ghamdi Sahab explained 4 sources of knowledge very well.
For our limited human knowledge, we have no choice other than what Quran tells us and it is also proven by our intellects, historical facts and mushahida.
Religion is a matter of faith, and not subject to logic. Hopefully we will get all these answer in our life after death.
Another recommendation is Conversing Islam ep 9
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I have just given an intellectual argument through the same sources of knowledge
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Add the fact that it seems highly unlikely that the ultimate creator of the entire universe would send a book to some random assortment of atoms who are infinitely smaller than atoms to him.
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I think your question is very valid but unfortunately the human race is not advanced enough yet to determine that there is intelligent life out there anywhere in the known universe. Not a tiny shred of scientific evidence exists to suggest that aliens exist let alone the ultimate creator of the entire universe. So we have no other choice to rely upon thousands of years of human knowledge that has been claiming that a creator of this universe exits. Even science has not yet come up with absolute evidence to deny the existence of God.
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What value does that thousands of years of knowledge hold in the face of an intellectual argument? God (an ultimate creator) definitely exists. But why would that ultimate creator (of the entire massive universe) choose to send books to tiny, truly tiny, isolated humans?
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That question cannot be answered until we know exactly the true nature of God. Unfortunately, there’s no way we can understand the true nature of God’s existence.
The main problem is the limits of human knowledge and understanding. We as human species are too inadequate and ill equipped to understand the entire secrets of this huge universe.
Moreover, we may not survive long enough as a species on this planet to fully understand this huge universe. So basically this whole idea of determining the true nature of God is a futile exercise and is bound to fail ultimately because human race is not gonna survive long enough ( one way or another). Maybe that’s what God also wants because if humans are able to discover the ultimate truth about God then that God would become kind of meaningless.
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Very interesting. I agree.
But then what evidence or reason do we have to take the claims made in the Quran to be true; to be from the ultimate creator?
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I think Mr. Ghamidi will be better able to answer that question. My argument was more of a philosophical nature.
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All of the artificial intelligence related movies I have ever watched are now haunting me in a completely different way. 😅
On a serious note, if we find that out some millions of years later or each one of us dies, we still were worshipping the source of our existence? I mean that still makes us worshipping our God/Creator. Our purpose still remains the same regardless of who was behind it.
I hope Ghamidi sb answers this but we all know what he’d answer. 😄 But who could tell this brain to take a break!
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But right now, for my present life I would base my judgements or my trust on what is rather than what if. And this comes after accepting consciously Quran as a Divine Book.
And by saying ” why would that ultimate creator (of the entire massive universe) choose to send books to tiny, truly tiny, isolated humans?” you are truly degrading our place and rank in the cosmos! This entire cosmos is subjected to this man.
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Who could tell this brain to take a break?
I guess we can wait for Ghamidi sahab’s answer.
I would still say, in comparison to the creator of this universe, we are insignificant
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That’s irrelevant imo
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I think it is relevant. If you are thinking that Quran is from aliens, then it means they are illah (naodho billah), so when we will know that then we will find their God 🙂
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they don’t have to be ilah. They may have an ilah though. Anyway, I think my post below is a strong argument
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I have a counter-argument against myself!
This human being, the consciousness, the language and morality it possesses is also simply not of this world. Therefore it must be superhuman. The person who gave this consciousness and morality and language must be one. Because if it was more than one, there would surely be turmoil in the universe.
Therefore, it cannot be that some aliens are conducting an experiment by sending the Quran because the ultimate creator (who has to be one) has already affected humans on this Earth. So his continuation of this process of tweaking and talking and affecting humanity is but a likelihood that we would think of- which is then confirmed by the sending of scriptures.
Thanks all for the input and let me know if you think I’ve made a mistake somewhere
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I think there is two possiblity outside the Quran which can make us assure that from where the Quran, one if it is from God then God himself tell us outside the quran that it is from me, if it is from Alien then they tell us that it is from us
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I think my argument makes more sense because aliens can lie
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Why u r assuming aliens can tell lie, lying is our human concept, if we found aliens may be they have totally different nature from us, maybe they have no concept of lying
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