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Why Ghamidi Saab Likes Living In Liberal Countries
Why ghamidi saab doesn’t live in Sharia implemented countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran why does he live in secular countries and not go to muslim countries where Sharia is implemented like chopping of hands flogging etc.he himself said alot of times that a muslim must abide with Sharia law and now he himself lives in liberal and secular countries recieving allowances from haram earned taxes from state via the likes of pornographic companies liquor companies isn’t this should be the biggest issue for ghamidi saab to consider moving to a muslim state?why this double standards?
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Why Ghamidi Saab Likes Living In Liberal Countries
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First Muslim countries need to become Muslim countries. Not by name but practically.
Which country is a true Muslim country?
There is no free speech, mutual respect, civilized discussion. Everyone think he is right and everyone else will go to hell and should be killed. No one is safe especially a public figure or wealthy.
There is no tolerance.
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Hahaha….it’s not a valid excuse you are finding away to run away from Sharia following countries…
So that’s the problem in Islam you don’t have freedom
Every body has its own version of Islam
If true Sharia is implemented like Taliban people would leave Islam that’s a fact
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Even if there was a sharia operated country, which you haven’t proved there is, where does it say in the Quran or Sunnah that it is fard to migrate there?
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It is obligatory on you to migrate because you are leaving a Shari’ah law country for desires from your taxes LGBT community is supported taxes from haram firms are giving allowances to your kids and parents isn’t it enough not to migrate
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Why is that haraam?
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My taxes being used for something I don’t agree with shouldn’t make it haraam. I’m just paying my taxes. What they do with it is their choice
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So you mean to say supporting LGBT is not harram isn’t it a fasaad
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Supporting their rights as a human being is required
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Hahaha….so in Islam they have rights seems you are following modern Islam not 1400 ago Islam
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Show me a text from the Quran or sunnah which says they should be treated any less than humans
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You stay and enjoy, don’t be concerned for others. Everyone is responsible for his or her own deeds.
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Thats a typical liberal muslim hiding reply… Islam is the best but we are happy under secular and liberal countries
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You are working under the assumption that ‘Muslim’ countries are operating under Islam. Is there free speech in Muslim countries? That freedom is a right that cannot be taken away. Non Muslims are probably more well mannered snd principled than most Muslims in terms of character. In terms of trade and money they are also to a certain extent but it is easier in third world countries to cheat.
Anyway islam is not to do with politics. It is to do with morals
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Really Islam has nothing to do with politics?
Dear your understanding is very lame your sahaba fought for power and politics Islam came via power and politics
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Discussion 37972This should provide insight on the basis of the sahaba’s actions.
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Prople propagating Islam through politics are the actions of the people. When it comes to sahabah and the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم the situation is a bit more nuanced with the law of itmam ul hujjah. Otherwise show me a Quranic text
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What you are doing is typical for not yet getting opportunity. Why not you do rather than telling others. What have you accomplished so far before criticizing others who are doing great work.
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Please you follow your peacefull and modern Islam
And comfort yourself
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Also you said taliban implement true sharia. What aspects of their implementation are you referring to? Spreading fasaad and rebelling against the state? My friend please read surah maidah ayah 33
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In the 1400 years nobody could implement ideal Shari’ah in a state I am worried why god’s law is why neglected or hard to be implemented
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You can see the states of Omar رضي الله عنه or the other primary caliphas. I am also worried as to why it was neglected. Though to Ottoman Empire you could also say was a good example.
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So you mean to say in Islam there is concept of khilafat but according to ghamidi saab it’s not so in first place Ottomans didn’t follow Shari’ah coz they followed khilafat system which is not in Islam and they conquered alot of lands in the name Islam without any reason which is again against itmame hujjat law so do you consider it valid?
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Islam has not given any system. All it says is to confer the rule. A dictator could confer ruling with ulema and others. The actual system whether democracy or khilafah is left for humans to decide.
Morals and judgements will also of course be based taking the time period into account
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Thats the problem so Islam doesn’t give the solution…
And ghamidi saab says its about ammruhum shora baynahum…..other say it’s khilafat others sayi ts another thing…that’s why nobody follows Shari’ah properly except Iran and Saudi they implement 80-90 percent of it because they know it will fail badly even Saudi is slowly reforming
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Islam doesn’t give the solution because it’s a religion not a political reform movement. It is to do with morals
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If Islam is not about politics then why muslim countries follow Shari’ah in their constitutions why they can’t make it secular??
You make me laugh with your replies
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God has given some punishments from his divine law for Muslims to implement when they have a rule. Now whether this rule is a democracy or a dictatorship he has not specified. That is for humans to figure out with their morals. There is nation state and there is monarchy. I would think monarchs don’t confer the rule so it would be against Islam.
I’m happy you find this humorous
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Believe me you are self deluded about Islam…
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All the Ishaba that went to other countries.. Perhaps you don’t know about.
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When Ghamidi sahab left Pakistan, he moved to Malaysia. Please see his response in the video below from 27:37 to 29:30. Few years ago when when he came to the United States for a tour, people here very strongly insisted that he should move to the United States so that his message could reach a wider audience.
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Sulaiman Gran sahab judging from your post and follow-ups, evidently you have some misconceptions about Islam. Hopefully the following article and videos will help:
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You mean to say Malaysia follows sharia….you are mistaken brother…even that was not a proper choice he should have went to Iran Saudi somalia or Nigeria where Islam is followed atleast 80percent
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I have shared with you Ghamidi sahab’s video response why he chose Malaysia.
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Watch first 3 mins of this video
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Kindly listern to Ghamidi sb reply to Question about is it not allowed to live in non muslim countries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXvmcA1ZTRE
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