اجماعی غلطی

[Umer]

Na ho saknay ki wajah aap ki nazar mein kya ho sakti hai? Meri nazar mein sirif dow sooratein ho saki hein: aik tow ye ke ummat-e-Muhammadi insanon ki bajaye farishton ki kisi jamaat ka naam ho, ya phir ye ke khuda/rasool ki koi sanad ho ke aisa kabhi nahi ho ga. In donon mein se mere ilm ki hud tak koi bhi baat nahi hai.

Doosri baat ye ke kya ummat waqai mein muttafiq hai? Tareekh se pata chalta hai ke ummat mein deen ke muamlay mein hamesha se ikhtalafat rahe hein. Aur ye ikhtalafat koi chhotay ikhtalafat bhi nahi hein. Khuda ki zaat-o-sifaat se le kar, tawheed, risalat, nabuwat, maqasid-e-deen, Quran, sunnah, hadees, ihkamat, itlaqatat – aap ko hur daur ke baday baday ulema mein iss tarah ke ikhtalafat ki aik lambi fehrist mil sakti hai.

Durust tareeqa sirif ye hai ke hum kisi bhi baat ko jazbat se oopar uth ke parkhein aur dalail ki bina pe radd ya qubool karein. Iss ke siwa meri nazar mein hamare paas aur koi rasta nahi hai.

[FM]

@faisalharoon

There is a narration, which is often presented as an evidence: “Ummah wouldn’t have a consensus on a wrong belief” and this establishes *ijma* as a source of religion.

I paraphrased the narration. Your point 1 is very valid and I agree with it.

I just want to know what’s its authenticity and context?

Thanks

[Umer]

Faizan Sahab!

There is also another famous Hadith of 72 sects all going to hell except one, so where is ijma as a source of deen now?

Just a food for thought.

[FM]

Umer bahi

Excellent point & it clarified my doubt.

Thanks.

[Umer]

@FM20

The riwayah you mentioned appears in Tirmidhi and is graded as da’eef.

https://muflihun.com/tirmidhi/33/2167

Please also see this discussion.

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[FM]

Thank you @faisalharoon

[Umer]

@FM20 please see this as well:

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[Mohammad Yaseen]

https://youtu.be/nNZFyOiRFlM