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  • Surah Waqiah Verse 85

    Posted by Taimur Mughal on October 13, 2024 at 6:45 am

    My q is :

    in verse 85 we read ; and We are closer to him than you, although you do not see it.

    I read somewhere that with We it’s referring to angels but Quran is the kalaam of Allah so how are We here indicating angels? God is saying my angels are near to the person? Then HE could have easily said my angels but HE clealry is saying Nahnu ; We.

    Surely with We God is referring to Himself and thereby would it be correct than to assume that : when a person is dying God is near him in His own manner?

    And second part of my q is about surah waqia verse 88 to 94 ; just couple of verses after this previous verse of WE :

    I read that when a human dies so he either is given the Gardens of bliss or perhaps good news of it by angels if he or she is among the foremost ones.

    And if the person is from people of right ; he is welcomed by peace be upon you … and if the person is bad than ofcourse hellfire or pretold perhaps about the bad news of hellfire.

    But ghamidi sahib said that normal people like most of us all are put to sleep until the day of judgement. So how are they put to sleep while these verses are telling something else?

    And there is a hadith ; I forgot the reference but surely you guys know it ; when one a soul is departed he meets his family members in barzakh and they ask him about other relatives and then they realize the person is not among them and died earlier. They get sad.

    Kinldy elaborate for me these 2 matters.

    Jazakumullah Khair

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 2 weeks, 1 day ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Surah Waqiah Verse 85

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad updated 2 weeks, 1 day ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 15, 2024 at 6:39 am

    In the Quran, Allah narrates from others too, in direct or indirect speech. We can be referred to God and angels or others. The occasion and use of the pronoun in the given context make it clear who the subject of the pronoun is. In this verse, ‘We’ refers to God. No indication refers We’ to angels.

    Good people may receive good news from angels on their deathbeds and bad ones may receive bad news, but then they are put to sleep to be resurrected on the day of judgment.

    The hadith you refer to is not about the ordinary people but the people who sided with the prophet and were Shuhada. They stay conscious after their death and interact with angels.

  • shaban ali

    Member December 13, 2025 at 12:50 pm

    Surah Al-Waqiah ki ayat 85 mein Allah Ta’ala farmate hain:

    And We are closer to him than you, but you do not see.

    Is ayat mein lafz We (Nahnu) par sawal paida hota hai ke kya yeh farishton ki taraf ishara hai ya Allah ki taraf.

    Quran ke usool ke mutabiq Allah Ta’ala apni shaan aur azmat ke liye aksar We ka lafz istemal farmate hain, jise plural of majesty kaha jata hai. Is ayat ke context mein koi aisi daleel ya ishara maujood nahi jo We ko farishton ki taraf le jaye. Is liye yahan We se murad Allah Ta’ala hi hain, na ke farishtay.

    Yeh qurbat jismani ya physical qurbat nahi, balkay ilm, qudrat aur ikhtiyar ki qurbat hai. Allah har insan ke haal se waqif hotay hain, khas taur par us waqt jab insan maut ke qareeb hota hai, lekin log is haqeeqat ko dekh nahi sakte.

    Surah Al-Waqiah ki tafseer aur mukammal matn yahan parhna mumkin hai:
    https://surahwaqiah.online/

    Verses 88–94 aur Barzakh ka Masla

    Surah Al-Waqiah ki ayaat 88 se 94 mein bayan hota hai ke maut ke waqt insan teen qisamon mein hota hai: sabiqun, ashab-ul-yameen aur ashab-ush-shimaal.

    Is mauqay par farishtay nek logon ko achi khabar dete hain aur bad logon ko bura anjaam bataya jata hai. Is ke baad aam log barzakh mein neend ki halat mein chale jate hain, jahan unhein waqt ka ehsaas nahi hota, aur woh qiyamat ke din dobara uthaye jayenge.

    Is liye maut ke waqt khabar milna aur phir barzakh mein so jana dono baatein aik dosray ke khilaf nahi hain.

    Barzakh wali Hadith ka Matlab

    Jo hadith bayan ki jati hai ke rooh barzakh mein apne ghar walon se milti hai, yeh aam logon ke liye nahi balkay khaas tor par shuhada ke liye hai. Quran bhi shuhada ke bare mein bayan karta hai ke woh zinda hain, lekin aam log unhein mehsoos nahi karte.

    Aam momin aur aam insan barzakh mein neend ki halat mein hota hai, jab ke shuhada ko Allah Ta’ala ne khaas martaba ata farmaya hota hai.

    Surah Al-Waqiah ki ayat 85 mein We se murad Allah Ta’ala hi hain. Maut ke waqt farishtay sirf khabar dete hain, jab ke aam insan barzakh mein qiyamat tak ke liye so jata hai. Barzakh mein hosh aur mulaqat wali riwayat shuhada ke sath khas hai.

    Agar aap Surah Al-Waqiah ko online parhna chahein to:
    https://surahwaqiah.online/

    • Taimur Mughal

      Member December 13, 2025 at 1:20 pm

      It’s still not clear.

      In another surah Allah says ke me is ke ragge jaan se bi kareeb hu. Aur is surah waqia me keh raha hein ke me kareeb hota hu magar wo jo ird gird heijn dheek ni sakte.

      Surely ye explanation nahi ho sakti ke wo apne ilm ke mutabik kareeb hota heijn kyunke wo to harwakt phir apne ilm ke mutabik kareeb huwa. To yaha kyun khasusan farma raha hejn ke me kareeb hota hun? Is ki explanation muje sirf eek hi scene me samaj a rahi hein wo ye hein ke nahnu se shayd ishara farishto ki taraf is liye heijn ke farishte itna flawless kaam karte heijn ruh nikaalte we ke Allah une eysi tazeem de raha hein ke jeyse Allah ki wo eek azeem o shaan sign ho. Jeyse ke Allah farma raha hein eek surah me ke wa ma ramaita iz ramaita walakin Allaha Rama. Aur jab aap ne na pehnka jab pehnka magar wo Allah ne pehnka tha. Yani Allah ne apne aap se tashbih di. To muje to yey samaj a rahi hein ke ye Un amazing actions ke liye shayd Allah apni taraf nisbat karta ho jo wo karwa raha hota hein apni makhluuk ke zariye.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar December 16, 2025 at 2:44 am

    قرآنی اسالیب پر غور کرتے رہیں، یہ اچھی بات ہے۔ اس کے بعد وہ ذوق پیدا ہو جاتا ہے جو ایسے مقامات کی تفہیم میں مددگار ثابت ہوتا ہے۔

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