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Responsibility For The Sinful Outcomes After Doing Haram
Posted by Mohammad Ali Soomro on December 11, 2024 at 9:46 amIn Islam, it is understood that a person who knowingly consumes intoxicants is held accountable not only for the act of drinking but also for any sins they commit while intoxicated, even if those sins were not explicitly intended at the time. This accountability arises from their awareness of the likelihood of sinful behavior under the influence.
Now, consider a similar scenario involving far-reaching consequences. Adnan, a deeply thoughtful individual, helps his friend in committing a major haram act. Although Adnan was aware of a distant possibility: one day, his friend might reflect on Adnan’s favor and feel an urge to repay him. This could result in the friend giving Adnan a gift (e.g., a watch) or a service (e.g., dropping him somewhere upon request) as a form of return favor. Adnan, unaware of his friend’s intention, might end up using the gift or service, which could potentially be haram for him to use.
Even if Adnan later advises his friend to avoid repaying him in any form, human nature might cause the friend to forget or act automatically (as humans naturally tend to reward someone when they remember other’s past favor upon them). Adnan was conscious of such possibilities but still chose to help his friend in the haram matter at that moment.
Given this context:
1. Will Adnan be held accountable if such far-reaching consequences occur in the future?2. Will Adnan incur sin each time he unintentionally benefits from such gifts or outcomes?
3. Does the awareness of such distant possibilities add to his accountability for the initial action?
Mohammad Ali Soomro replied 6 months, 1 week ago 3 Members · 19 Replies -
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Responsibility For The Sinful Outcomes After Doing Haram
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 11, 2024 at 11:47 pmThe answers to this kind of questions have already been given to you.
Unavoidable benefits are forbidden.
Irreversible feelings after a haram favor are exempted, so benefits are allowed.
This all is derived from the principle of EASE in Islam.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 11, 2024 at 11:51 pm@Irfan76 sir I guess I couldn’t convey my question here in clarity.
my question here is not about earning someone’s feelings after Haram. and those feelings cause a natural love in subconscious and a person caring for is with his subconscious attachment with us. I understand that this is not Haram
my question is about someone directly benefiting me with an intention in his mind to repay my past Haram favor directly. I’m talking about this case here
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 13, 2024 at 4:11 amOne is not responsible for the intensions and act of others.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 14, 2024 at 5:06 am@Irfan76 yes sir this is clear that I am not responsible for their intentions.
The only point that makes me concern is that what happens after they do such intention. when they give me something with such intention, I am not responsible for their intention I.e he forgot my advice and gave me a perfume with an intention of direct reward/return of my past Haram favor.
but the thing that I got here i.e perfume, is not permissible for me to use because it is a direct reward for Haram. and I use it unintentionally while being unaware. will this unintentional and unaware usage of this perfume earn me yet another sin and I’ll still be held accountable for it? because of my prior knowledge of such possibility of unintentional sin happening by me, at the time when I was favoring him, will now this unintentional usage by me earn me more sin and accountability?
just as a drunkard after losing consciousness, everytime he does a sin under intoxication even if it’s unintentionally done due to less consciousness, he gets more sin. if he does Zina unintentionally, he gets full sin for Zina. if he steals unintentionally, he gets full sin of stealing. all of this because of prior knowledge that intoxication can lead him to do Unintentional sins and yet he went ahead with this disobedience of intoxication. So will my case be similar to him? my unintentional perfume usage will be counted as full sin because of my prior knowledge of this possibility, while doing him Haram favor? (possibility that he can still forget my advice temporarily and give me something as a direct reward for these favors)
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 16, 2024 at 11:50 pmAs told earlier, the relations and feelings are not required to be undone. if a relation or feeling earned in the days of haram actions, benefit, it is ok to accept them. if your taqwa does not allow it you can decide owthersie.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 17, 2024 at 12:04 am@Irfan76 sir the question here is not about the feelings that i earned by Haram action, and the benefits coming by his general love feelings for me. i.e. he feels love towards me so he gifts me something. i know this gift is Halal to use and there’s no need to return either the gift or feeling. because the gift is not given as a direct Haram reward to me for my Haram action or to show gratitude for my Haram action.
what i am focusing here, in this thread is about only the case where he remembers my past favor from his memory and directly thinks of repaying that favor with favor (ehsaan chukaana). he suddenly remembers my past Haram favor and feels obliged that he needs to ‘ahsan chukaana chahiye’ and for this intend he does something for me.
If he does something like this, then I’m not responsible for his intention but what happens next is I consume something impermissible because it was repayment (ehsaan chukane ki niyyat se diya gayi cheez) Unintentionally.
Will I earn additional sin and accountability here at this time (where I Unintentionally consume it), because while doing Haram favor back then, I was aware of possibilly of this thing happening this way, is there?
analogously to the Unintentional sins of a person who deliberately got drunk?
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 20, 2024 at 1:56 amWhen it is clear that one is not responsible for the intentions of others, one is not sinful in this case, no matter if one was aware of this situation that it would happen in the future, because it does not affect the principle that one is not responsible for the intentions of misdeeds of others.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 20, 2024 at 2:12 am@Irfan76 okay sir i get this point.
sir for better understanding and clarity. i want to ask something that between this example and an example of a drunkard, who was aware that his intoxication will cause him to do Unintentional sins.
between these 2 examples, what are the key differentiating factors in both that would separate them in accountability. one is this that responsibility of others is not my problem. can you please list some others which you think separate these both cases in ruling?
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 21, 2024 at 2:46 amIn the case of the drunkard he is doing sins while in the other case another person is involved.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 21, 2024 at 2:59 am@Irfan76 sir but in this case, am i not also doing a sin, of utilizing something which is given to me in repayment (Ahsan chukane) for my Haram favor, which is in itself impure to use for me. it happened because of forgetfulness of the other person or he couldn’t realize and gave me something in such intention. and in the next step i utilize what is Haram for me to utilize, Unintentionally , because of not being aware of his intention. (as this is not feasibly possible to ask him everytime he does something for me and ask him what his intention behind this is, etc)
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 22, 2024 at 4:00 amSince you take it this way, you should avoid it.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 22, 2024 at 4:08 am@Irfan76 sir I really don’t want to throw myself under the bus with a faulty understanding. so I constantly fear that what if in such thinking that I will still get sin, I finish my big relations with my close friends, and the girl I am about to marry (and we both are deeply attached, and a separation will break us mentally extremely and affect our overall life). I am very scared to take such a step and where as in reality I was not required Islamically to take such a step…
so sir that’s why I wanted your help to make me understand the reality and not leave me on the mercy of my faulty understanding…
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 23, 2024 at 12:46 amIn such matters of Ijtihad, a wrong decision is not sinful. If you find your judgment wrong, later, you can correct it and carry on.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 23, 2024 at 12:49 am@Irfan76 sir I understand I am just worried that once I finish relationships they will not be reconnected with permanent damage etc. Strong pain and suffering will entail both parties. if you think that my thinking is faulty please correct me in the above scenario
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 23, 2024 at 1:10 amI have told you that your thinking is faulty but you insist, in such cases we advises the person to act upon his taqwa.
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 23, 2024 at 1:19 am@Irfan76 😭 sir i don’t know if it’s taqwa or again and again thoughts of OCD that make me approach anything with different different ways. Many of times I used to think things mathematically applying laws as they come… and then later I discovered i was wrong when the bigger picture became clear. In other matters I can afford it. in this sensitive matter I’m very scared and restless and anxious. whole day heartbeat is fast. I fear that here anything like that will destroy my and her mental health, and very hard suffering will come.
I don’t know if my brain thinks things abnormally, I just apply a rule like as is,… if drunkard knew before drinking about that he’ll do unintentional, so he’ll be fully responsible…… so it means if I did in past while knowing this… so I’ll also get sin even if I try to avoid the situation by telling her to not return favor… because I knew that even with this a sudden thought can trigger such a response in her naturally. I don’t know if my thinking is too much mathematical and less logical…
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 23, 2024 at 3:13 amThis is OCD. You better consult some psychiatrist and stop addressing your thoughts.
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Amaan Zia
Member December 23, 2024 at 8:38 pmBrother are you a Muslim do you believe in Quran. It will give peace InshaAllah.
The Quran emphasizes Allah’s mercy and forgiveness for those who sincerely repent, even if they committed sins intentionally. Here are some relevant verses:
1. Surah Az-Zumar (39:53):
“Say, ‘O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.’”
This verse encourages believers to seek forgiveness, assuring them that Allah’s mercy is vast.
2. Surah Al-Furqan (25:70):
“Except for those who repent, believe, and do righteous work. For them, Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.”
Here, Allah promises not only forgiveness but also the transformation of sins into good deeds for those who repent sincerely and reform.
3. Surah An-Nisa (4:17):
“The repentance accepted by Allah is only for those who do wrong in ignorance [or carelessness] and then repent soon after. It is they to whom Allah will turn in forgiveness. And Allah is ever Knowing and Wise.”
While this verse mentions repentance for sins done in ignorance or carelessness, scholars interpret it to mean that even intentional sins can be forgiven if the repentance is sincere and timely.
4. Surah Taubah (9:118):
“And [He also forgave] the three who were left behind [and regretted their error] to the point that the earth closed in on them in spite of its vastness, and their souls confined them, and they were certain that there is no refuge from Allah except in Him. Then He turned to them so they could repent. Indeed, Allah is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.”
This verse highlights Allah’s mercy for those who sincerely regret their actions and seek His forgiveness.
JazakAllah
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Mohammad Ali Soomro
Member December 27, 2024 at 2:54 am@Karachicago thank you brother for the kind reply
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