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  • Creation Of Adam A.S

    Posted by Tayyaba Zahra on December 22, 2024 at 12:24 pm

    According to Ghamidi sahab’s interpretation of the creation of human beings in the Quran, first humans were created in an animalistic form then the ruh (soul) was blown into the first human, Adam A.S. Meaning that Hazrat Adam’s human form was created as all us other humans were created, by the way of fertilization. However, in the Quran, Allah explains the miraculous birth of Hazrat Isa A.S by giving the example of Hazrat Adam A.S and explaining that Isa A.S was born in the same miraculous way (without a father) the same way Hazrat Adam A.S was born (without a father or mother). Does this not go against Ghamidi Sahab’s understanding of the creation of humans i.e doesn’t the Quran state that Hazrat Adam A.S was brought to Earth miraculously without any human conception?

    Jazakallah

    Amaan Zia replied 6 months, 2 weeks ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Creation Of Adam A.S

    Amaan Zia updated 6 months, 2 weeks ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
  • Amaan Zia

    Member December 22, 2024 at 1:25 pm

    I agree with you that there is a contradiction in Ghamdi Sahab’s point of view. Hope if he is reviewing he might clarify.I also placed a Question yesterday,

    My Question: In Quran there is not a single verse that says “Hazrat ISA was born without a father”. I need your answer from Quran exclusively please.
    My understanding with References:
    Surah Maryum 19:21 : قَالَ كَذَٰلِكِ قَالَ رَبُّكِ هُوَ عَلَىَّ هَيِّنٌۭ ۖ وَلِنَجْعَلَهُۥٓ ءَايَةًۭ لِّلنَّاسِ وَرَحْمَةًۭ مِّنَّا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرًۭا مَّقْضِي
    Surah Maryum 19:09 : قَالَ كَذَٰلِكَ قَالَ رَبُّكَ هُوَ عَلَىَّ هَيِّنٌۭ وَقَدْ خَلَقْتُكَ مِن قَبْلُ وَلَمْ تَكُ شَيْـًۭٔا
    I highlighted قَالَ كَذَٰلِكَ (Ushi tarhan/So it will be), How human born, below are the references
    Surah Al Mominun 23:13&14
    Surah Nisa (4:01)
    Surah At-Tariq (86:5-7)
    Surah Al-Insan (76:2)
    Surah Al-Hajj (22:5)
    Allah has created his laws that he himself dont go against them.
    Surah Fatir (3543) فَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ ٱللَّهِ تَبْدِيلًۭا ۖ وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ ٱللَّهِ تَحْوِيلًا
    Surah Yunus (10:64) لَهُمُ الْبُشْرَىٰ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَفِي الْآخِرَةِ ۚ لَا تَبْدِيلَ لِكَلِمَاتِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ هُوَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ

    This References is very Critical:
    Allah himself is saying “How could He have children when He has no mate?
    Surah Anaam (6:101) بَدِيعُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ ۖ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌۭ وَلَمْ تَكُن لَّهُۥ صَـٰحِبَةٌۭ ۖ وَخَلَقَ كُلَّ شَىْءٍۢ ۖ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمٌۭ

    Surah Maryum (19:17)فَٱتَّخَذَتْ مِن دُونِهِمْ حِجَابًۭا فَأَرْسَلْنَآ إِلَيْهَا رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَرًۭا سَوِيًّۭا
    In this surah I saw most of the translation of
    رُوحَنَا Translate as Angel Jibreel/ but It can be a Human too as you know well.
    بَشَرًۭا In Arabic culture it mean husband, like in Our indo/Pak culture we use not to say husband’s name instead wife call them “Mera Adami”. Also if Jibreel comes to Bibi Maryum then is also a Nabi but Quran didnt mention her as Nabi.
    Most of our translations are the reflection from Bible writers and translators Matthew 1:18-25
    Also Historians and christian belives that Yousuf Najar was a husband of Maryam and she had 3 more kids after Jesus.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar December 23, 2024 at 1:03 am

    There remains a clear distinction between the creation of Adam and Jesus, even though both were brought into existence through the divine command Kun (“Be”). Adam was created without a father or mother, while Jesus was born without a father only. Thus, the analogy is not comprehensive enough to claim that there is no difference in their births.

    The Quran describes Adam’s creation as part of a broader process that leads to the existence of all humans. Consider the verses in Surah As-Sajdah (32:7-9):

    الَّذِي أَحْسَنَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ خَلَقَهُ ۖ وَبَدَأَ خَلْقَ الْإِنسَانِ مِن طِينٍ ‎﴿٧﴾‏ ثُمَّ جَعَلَ نَسْلَهُ مِن سُلَالَةٍ مِّن مَّاءٍ مَّهِينٍ ‎﴿٨﴾‏ ثُمَّ سَوَّاهُ وَنَفَخَ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِهِ ۖ وَجَعَلَ لَكُمُ السَّمْعَ وَالْأَبْصَارَ وَالْأَفْئِدَةَ ۚ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَشْكُرُونَ

    This description encompasses the entire process of human creation which led to Adam. Therefore, when Allah briefly states that Adam was created with the command Kun, it inherently includes all the detailed stages mentioned in Surah As-Sajdah regarding the coming into being of the first human.

    • Amaan Zia

      Member December 23, 2024 at 8:07 pm

      Are you agreeing that human kind created by Dust + water and through evolution, we get a form of human.

      Surah Al-Insan (76:1-2):

      “Has there [not] come upon man a period of time when he was not a thing [even] mentioned? Indeed, We created man from a sperm-drop mixture…”

      The Allah opt Adam as a Khalifa on Earth.

      So, do you agree that Even Adam was born with Parents?

      Also, please reply to this

      Allah himself is saying “How could He have children when He has no mate?
      Surah Anaam (6:101) بَدِيعُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ ۖ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌۭ وَلَمْ تَكُن لَّهُۥ صَـٰحِبَةٌۭ ۖ وَخَلَقَ كُلَّ شَىْءٍۢ ۖ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ عَلِيمٌۭ

      Brother if you’re getting bothered from my questions. I was only trying to getting some answers from Ghamdi sahab what’s his point of view as he is a patient person and accepts other points of view with a concrete Daleel.

      I produced evidence from Quran and you deny.

      You say Allah changes his course

      On this. Just throw me off.

      Surah Fatir (3543) فَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ ٱللَّهِ تَبْدِيلًۭا ۖ وَلَن تَجِدَ لِسُنَّتِ ٱللَّهِ تَحْوِيلًا
      Surah Yunus (10:64) لَهُمُ الْبُشْرَىٰ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَفِي الْآخِرَةِ ۚ لَا تَبْدِيلَ لِكَلِمَاتِ اللَّهِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ هُوَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ

      If i could get answer from Ghamdi sahab it would be a favor .

      I am not here for debate its a general discussion forum. Sorry to say your response is very immature as far as the knowledge of Quran is concerned.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar December 23, 2024 at 1:09 am

    Dear @Amaan,

    You are requested to wait till a moderator reply a post, becaue when someone else responses first, the post goes to the category of ‘answered’ and does not appear in the ‘unanswered’ posts, and it can skip our attention and go unasnwered. Once the modertor replies a most, then you can give put your query.

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