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  • Posted by Farhan Khan on January 27, 2025 at 6:41 pm

    Was it pre determined that adam or eve will commit a sin and will be sent to earth for an exam?

    If it was pre determined, then adam and eve were not at fault and God was angry unnecessarily?

    If it was not pre determined and adam & eve made that decision at their own free will then there is another problem.

    God wanted to create humans to take exam. Right? For that exam, we needed adam and eve to commit a mistake. Right?

    Does this mean Allah’s exam was dependant on adam&eve action. Which means Allah was dependant on someone’s actions to do what he wanted to do.

    I am confused here. Van there be a 3rd possible scenario because as far as i can conclude there are either:

    1: Allah already decided that Adam and Eve will commit that sin and there will be no other option، which means Allah sent adam and eve wrongfully and it wasn’t there fault

    2: Allah was dependant on Adam&Eve’s sin and without them committing that sin this whole scheme would’ve collapsed.

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 3 weeks, 4 days ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar January 28, 2025 at 3:37 am

    Predestination is in fact, the advanced knowledge of God. It means He did not make something happen, but something was going to happen and He knew it in advance.

    Before Adam committed the mistake, God had already announced that he created a man to be sent to the world. Adam was kept for a while in a garden and after that, He was going to be sent to the world. But he committed a mistake and was expelled. If he had not committed the mistake, still he had to go to the world for the test. Read the full story in Surah Baqarah.

    • Farhan Khan

      Member January 28, 2025 at 4:50 am

      Indeed it was dependant on Adam committing a sin. Allah says in surah Taha 117-119, Don’t let Satan remove you from Jannat.

    • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

      Scholar January 29, 2025 at 2:10 am

      As already told, Adam was made to go to the world. Allah would have sent him on his time honorably. Therefore, He warned him not to let the Devil expel you from there.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar January 28, 2025 at 3:38 am

    وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ إِنِّي جَاعِلٌ فِي الْأَرْضِ خَلِيفَةً ۖ قَالُوا أَتَجْعَلُ فِيهَا مَن يُفْسِدُ فِيهَا وَيَسْفِكُ الدِّمَاءَ وَنَحْنُ نُسَبِّحُ بِحَمْدِكَ وَنُقَدِّسُ لَكَ ۖ قَالَ إِنِّي أَعْلَمُ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ‎﴿٣٠﴾‏ وَعَلَّمَ آدَمَ الْأَسْمَاءَ كُلَّهَا ثُمَّ عَرَضَهُمْ عَلَى الْمَلَائِكَةِ فَقَالَ أَنبِئُونِي بِأَسْمَاءِ هَٰؤُلَاءِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ ‎﴿٣١﴾‏ قَالُوا سُبْحَانَكَ لَا عِلْمَ لَنَا إِلَّا مَا عَلَّمْتَنَا ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ الْعَلِيمُ الْحَكِيمُ ‎﴿٣٢﴾‏ قَالَ يَا آدَمُ أَنبِئْهُم بِأَسْمَائِهِمْ ۖ فَلَمَّا أَنبَأَهُم بِأَسْمَائِهِمْ قَالَ أَلَمْ أَقُل لَّكُمْ إِنِّي أَعْلَمُ غَيْبَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَأَعْلَمُ مَا تُبْدُونَ وَمَا كُنتُمْ تَكْتُمُونَ ‎﴿٣٣﴾‏ وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ ‎﴿٣٤﴾‏ وَقُلْنَا يَا آدَمُ اسْكُنْ أَنتَ وَزَوْجُكَ الْجَنَّةَ وَكُلَا مِنْهَا رَغَدًا حَيْثُ شِئْتُمَا وَلَا تَقْرَبَا هَٰذِهِ الشَّجَرَةَ فَتَكُونَا مِنَ الظَّالِمِينَ ‎﴿٣٥﴾‏ فَأَزَلَّهُمَا الشَّيْطَانُ عَنْهَا فَأَخْرَجَهُمَا مِمَّا كَانَا فِيهِ ۖ وَقُلْنَا اهْبِطُوا بَعْضُكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ عَدُوٌّ ۖ وَلَكُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ مُسْتَقَرٌّ وَمَتَاعٌ إِلَىٰ حِينٍ ‎﴿٣٦﴾‏ فَتَلَقَّىٰ آدَمُ مِن رَّبِّهِ كَلِمَاتٍ فَتَابَ عَلَيْهِ ۚ إِنَّهُ هُوَ التَّوَّابُ الرَّحِيمُ

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