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Ghamidi Sahabs’ Rebuttal To Surah Mujadilah Verse That Is Used Against Surrogacy
Rented Surrogacy ko Ghamidi Sahab sahi kehte hain. Lekin iske khilaaf jo Surah Mujadilah ki ayat no. 2 ka jo hissa pesh kiya jata hai (…..unki maayen to wahi hain jinhone unko jana hai…..) Ghamidi Sahab iska kya rebuttal dete hain.
Eik video mein eik incomplete rebuttal dekha, jis mein Ghamidi Sahab ne is ayat ko doodh pilane wali razayi maa pe apply karne ko kaha. Doodh pilane ka amal to bachha janne ke baad ka hai plus doodh pilane wali maa ko haqeeqi maa nahi balke razayi maa kehte hain aur dono mein kuch fark hai. Aur saath hi sawaal ka jawab, sawaal se dene se, jahan baat wazeh nahi ho rahi ho, ye to eik tarha ki question fallacy lagti hai. To ye rebuttal to incomplete laga.
Ab baat ye hai ki Ghamidi Sahab ka complete rebuttal kya hai. Is ayat mein “maa” ka aur “janne” ka exactly kya matlab hai, is baat ko saamne rakhte huye ke Quran kabhi bhi, kisi bhi zamane mein inconsistent nai ho sakta. Ghamidi Sahab iska kya matlab bayan karte hain.
Surrogacy ke case mein is ayat ka 3 matlab possible lag raha hai. (Words – Biological mother and surrogate mother shouldn’t be considered equivalent to maa, for time being, just for concept clarification)
1. Surrogacy ke case mein Janne ka matlab, bache ko uterus mein rakhna aur phir peda karna. To is hisab se maa sirf surrogate mother hui. (Lekin ye sahi nai lag raha, q ke bache ke rom rom mein, eik eik cells mein biological mother ka DNA hai, aur us DNA ke hisaab se hi us bache ki sakht hai)
2. Surrogacy ke case mein Janne ka matlab, Biological mother ka bacha peda karne ka irada karna, phir apne ovum ko IVF ke liye dena. Aur surrogate mother se madad maangna ke wo usko bacha janne mein help kare. To is case maa sirf Biological mother hai aur wahi bacha jann rahi hai. Surrogate mother bacha janne mein sirf help kar rahi hai aur wo khud bacha nahi jann rahi hai. (Ye theek bhi lag raha hai aur is case mein surrogate mother ko help karne ki wajah se razayi maa ka darja dena chahiye.)
3. Surrogacy ke case mein Janne ka matlab, ye bhi hai ke, Biological mother ka bacha peda karne ka irada karna, phir apne ovum ko IVF ke liye dena. Aur ye bhi hai ki Surrogate mother ka bache ko apne uterus mein rakhna aur phir peda karna. To is hisaab dono hi bache ki haqeeqi maa hui. Aur surrogate mother ko razayi maa keh kar, unka darja kam karna theek nai hoga. (Ye galat lag raha hai q ke surrogate mother bache ki badaish ke baad, na hi uski parwarish ka irada ki hain, na hi karne wali hain aur na hi un pe koi zimmedari hai. Aur bache ki saakht na hi surrogate mother ke DNA ke hisaab se hai.)
Mujhe to second option, surrogacy ke case mein, Surah Mujadilah ki ayat ka sahi matlab lag raha hai. Ghamidi Sahab is ayat mein “janne” aur “maa” ka kya matlab bayaan karte hain? Aur Ghamidi Sahab ka complete rebuttal kya hai? -
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Ghamidi Sahabs’ Rebuttal To Surah Mujadilah Verse That Is Used Against Surrogacy
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سورہ مجادلہ کیا آیت اس تناظر میں ہے کہ اپنی بیوی کو اپنی ماں کہ دینے سے وہ ماں نہیں ہو جاتی۔ ماں تو وہی ہے جس نے پیدا کیا ہوتا ہے۔
یہاں اس کی کوئی نفی نہیں کہ دودھ پلانے والی کو ماں نہیں کہ سکتے۔ وہ ایک اور رشتے سے ماں ہو جاتی ہے۔ اگر ہر قسم کی ماں کی نفی اس آیت سے مراد لی جایے تو رضاعی ماں کی نفی بھی ہو جاتی ہے۔
سروگیٹ ماں بھی بچے کی پرورش اور پیدائش میں کردار ادا کرتی ہے اس لیے وہ بھی ماں ہو سکتی ہے۔
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To be precise “janne” ka kya matlab hai, aap bata sakte hain,
Kisi aur ka embryo apne uterus mein rakh ke peda karna
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Bacha peda karne ka irada karna, IVF ke liye ova dena, pedaish ke baad parwarish ka irada karna (mere khayal se “bacha janne” mein yahi main chiz hai. Eik aurat ka, eik bache ko apni zimmedari mein is duniya mein laana)
Please ayat ko is context se hata kar sirf ye bat dijiye ke is case mein “janne” ka precisely kya matlab hona chahiye? @Irfan76
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جننے کا مطلب جنم دینا ہے۔ to give birth.
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I case of surrogacy, I feel and I think, surrogate mother is not giving birth, she is just assisting the biological mother in giving birth. Even though the biological mother is not carrying her baby in her womb, still she is the only one who is giving birth. And Surrogate mother is not giving birth.
Am I correct? @Irfan76 What do you think?
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These are facts. The biological mother is a real mother and the surrogate mother is giving birth and there can be a nursing mother who may feed the child her milk. The verse does not limit the facts. Still, we know, who is the real mother. This is what the verse wants to convey that a real mother is only a real mother. In addition, the foster mother is declared mother by God. Then we have another kind of mother, the surrogate mother so by analogy we can declare her, the child’s mother.
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Wow this statement of yours clarifies everything. “This is what the verse wants to convey that a real mother is only a real mother. ”
Thank you sir!
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