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  • Ghamidi Shb’S Position On Existence Of God

    Posted by Muhammad Abdullah Awan on March 3, 2025 at 2:50 pm

    My understanding of syedna ghamidi’s position is this: man is conscious of him being a creation. That knowledge isn’t logically inferred but a result of DIRECT OBSERVATION. we see human being manufactured in a Factory from sperm to a whole human. This prompts in us INTUITIVELY? that as creation we ought to have a creator. This is as far as we can go by ourselves. Then Prophets give us KHABR (QURAN) that tells us that indeed there IS a Creator. That KHABR is again then evaluated by Rational criterions. Afterwards a HEARTFELT CALM (اطمینانِ قلب) is achieved by indulging with QURAN. ( IT’S AN EMOTIONAL SORT OF SATISFACTION NOT A RATIONAL ONE OF CERTAINTY?)MY QUESTIONS:
    1: How does seeing humans being manufactured in front of us INTUITIVELY (or logically, kindly tell which) makes us conscious that we’re a CREATION THAT OUGHT TO HAVE A CREATOR. I mean when we see a chair getting manufactured we see carpenter in front of us but here in case of human where the process is happening within a women may intuitively entail that it’s a self sufficient system, we are seeing no creator ( like Carpenter)
    2: If اطمینان قلب is state of heartfelt calmness; an emotional thing why Abraham was presented an OBSERVATIONAL ACCOUNT when he asked for it. It seems Abraham was provided OBSERVATIONAL CERTAINTY OR MAYBE A LOGICAL ONE but not an emotional one
    3: Speaking from personal experience and seeing the whole world, people seldom get attached to any belief system ( atheism or religion alike) starting from reason or logic. Start is always emotional or subjecive. People have emotional/subjecive dispositions to religion or atheism ( due to family, cultural , societal background; personal existential crises etc) and after that they look for rational justifications for their belief systems. that’s why we see our eastwrn societies more religious due to culture , family and Westerns being more secular.

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 4 months, 1 week ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Ghamidi Shb’S Position On Existence Of God

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar March 3, 2025 at 11:57 pm

    Human is a creation, it is an obvious fact. Then we see who is the creator. There are only two answers. The world itself is creator of everything and so is of humans. But it did unconsciously. This is what you refer to a self sufficient system.

    The other answer is God who consciously created us. One may choose who might be his one’s creator.

    To us, the knowledge, the interactive coherence, and consciousness of the system is not its own product. It necessitates an external creator. Then we have the khabr of the prophets which is when evaluated makes us belief that there is a God. This gives not only emotional but rational satisfaction that there is a true God.

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