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Explanation Needed For Muslim 2771
Uh so there’s an Hadith in Muslim which goes like this:
Anas reported that a person was charged with fornication with the slavegirl of Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ). Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said to ‘Ali:
Go and strike his neck. ‘Ali came to him and he found him in a well making his body cool. ‘Ali said to him: Come out, and as he took hold of his hand and brought him out, he found that his sexual organ had been cut. Hadrat ‘Ali refrained from striking his neck. He came to Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ) and said: Allah’s Messenger, he has not even the sexual organ with him.
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2771
Idt it’s in bukhari, it’s just in this book
It kinda confused me that nauzubillah did Prophet PBUH give out a wrong judgement?
But then I came across this Hadith in Musnad Ahmed which talks about Prophet PBUH telling Ali r.a to investigate even after He PBUH sends him on a mission sth…
It was narrated that ‘Ali (رضي الله عنه) said:
I said: O Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), when you send me on a mission, should I go and do what you tell me to do (with no delay) or witness and find out what someone who is not there cannot find out? He said:
Witness and find out what someone who is not there cannot find out.and then there’s this Hadith in which Prophet PBUH said His PBUH’s judgements can be wrong as He is human…
Narrated Um Salama:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “I am only a human being, and you people have disputes. May be some one amongst you can present his case in a more eloquent and convincing manner than the other, and I give my judgment in his favor according to what I hear. Beware! If ever I give (by error) somebody something of his brother’s right then he should not take it as I have only, given him a piece of Fire.” (See Hadith No. 638. Vol. 3)
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6967
I’m probably getting carried away here but I tried to reconcile the first Hadith with these two but the problem still stands for me, like is there a reason why Prophet PBUH gave the order for that dude in the first Hadith to be executed? Isn’t the punishment for zina lashes or stoning? Or was he supposed to get punished for something else, im sort of confused here.
Kindly pls explain whats going on here or if im missing any context or anything rly!
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Explanation Needed For Muslim 2771
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The narrators do not describe the whole details of the cases. They just narrate the result according to their own understanding. The essential details are always missing in their reports. The narrators were not like investigative reporters but bystanders.
Misjudgment by the prophet despite all investigating was possible as the prophet said.
The punishment of fornication is 100 stripes but if the act not just fornication but in case of multiple offences like zina in the form of rape, or man was a threat to women, he can be given the punishment of Fasad fil Ard. In that case one of the punishments is stoning to death.
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Fair enough, makes sense. Thank you for the help!
I found another narration of this in an another book of hadith which uses the wording “Take this sword and go. If you find him with her then kill him”, followed by the stuff Ali R.A said in the Musnad Ahmed Hadith.
https://shamela.ws/book/12981/804#p1
This already changes the theme from a direct execution command to a more conditional and investigative tone. So yeah, there is plenty of nuance and missing context here.
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