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Free Will & Determinism
is everything that we do, think desire, perceive, done. anything that’s happening determined?
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Free Will & Determinism
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Different forces and factors interact to produce different thoughts and choices which we can alter or choose not to act upon them.
In the matters of ethics, we are free to make a moral or immoral choice.
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no doubt there are different factors but are all those factors & forces and those thoughts that they produce and the choices that we make Determined?
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They are not determined in the sense that we can’t make choices. Determinism works as a frame under which we have choices to make. Determinism provides certain choices out of which we have to choose one.
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Please wt for Irfan sb response. He is a scholar. I am just a student
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so the factors are determined but the choices are not? if something is not determined which means something that don’t have a prior cause. What do we call it? Random? Random is something that’s not determined by a prior cause.
My question is if our choices are Random how do we have free will?
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Every thing has a prior cause.
We have free will because we experience it. We feel a conflict when we make a choice which allows us to make a choice. We have different motives for the choices. All are there when we make a choice. Then we select one.
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we experience illusion too, free will can be illusion too. But my argument is simple. our chiices can be either determined or random and in both cases how are we free?
in determinism, if something is bound to happen, how are we free?
and in Randomness, how are we free??
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1)Free will vs determinism is a long held debate in philosophy. However, free will is not a matter of philosophical mental gymnastics, it’s our daily observation and experience.
2)Denying free-will has profound implications which ultimately converge into creating a perception of hoax reality, which is exactly opposite to our “actual” reality.
3)Things lose meaning and value: If determinism is true:-parents scolding their children about wrongdoings doesn’t make any sense because , they weren’t free to choose not doing that.-criminals cannot be punished in legal courts, since they were determined to do that and had no choice to choose not to do that(Look at how absurd it is if we consider determinism: injustice is being done by punishing the criminal in a justice court)-Agreeing and disagreeing doesn’t make any sense if determinism is true.-Love/thankfulness loses it’s “value” because the one loving you is not doing so by choice but by compulsion/determinism.-Nothing can be complained about because everything was determined. -Reasoning loses meaning and becomes unreliable; hence truth claims cannot be assessed. -
it’s not about free will vs determinism. the title of my question may suggest that. But it’s about how can free will exist if everything is determined or if everything is Random.
There is no possibility other than Randomness and Determinism.
everything is either determined or Random and in both cases I’m wondering how we are free.
Also if there can be any other possibility apart from Randomness and Determinism, plz do tell.
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Unless something is proven to be an illusion, we accept it as real.
Our experience tells us that we are free to choose: we make one decision at one moment, and a different one at another. We commit to a choice, then sometimes reconsider and change it. This sense of freedom is real—unless it’s proven otherwise. Now we try to find out how we can be free to choose, despite this or that probability. But for every argument, a counterargument exists. Such theoretical debates are endless. Instead of getting lost in speculation, we should begin with what is evidently real.
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