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Posted by Abrar Ahmad on May 17, 2025 at 12:07 pmسنت کی فہرست میں غامدی صاحب نے عید الفطر اور عید الضحی کو بھی شامل کیا ہے جبکہ مبادی تدبر سنت کے زیرِ عنوان غامدی صاحب یہ اصول بیان کرتے ہیں کہ سنت کی ابتدا رسول اللہ سے پہلے سے ہونی چاہیے تبھی وہ چیز سنت کہلوائے گی۔ لیکن غامدی صاحب خود فرماتے ہیں کہ عید الفطر اور عید الضحی کی ابتدا خود رسول اللہ نے کی ہے تو پھر یہ سنت کیسی ہوئی ؟
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Ahsan
Moderator May 20, 2025 at 8:35 amhere is complete chapter for sunnah. Please share where Ghamidi sb say that it should start before Prophet saw.
https://javedahmedghamidi.org/#!/mizan/5aa6a4315e891e8f44a45788/full?chapterNo=0&subChapterNo=1&lang=ur-
Abrar Ahmad
Member May 21, 2025 at 2:32 amIn Third Principle of Sunnah Ghamidi Sb said ” عملی نوعیت کی وہ چیزیں بھی سنت نہیں ہو سکتی جن کی ابتدا پیغمبر کے بجائے قران نے کی ہو ”
Here he explicitly mentioned that to Categorise something in Sunnah, it must not be initiated by Prophet Muhammad otherwise it’ll be categorised under the List of Quranic Ahkaam
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Ahsan
Moderator May 21, 2025 at 2:42 amThe third principle is that even things which belong to the practical sphere cannot be regarded Sunnah if they are initiated by the Qur’an
Where does it say, Prophet cannot start a sunnah?
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Abrar Ahmad
Member May 21, 2025 at 11:02 pmIt is not explicitly mentioned here but it is understood that there are only two Categorisation of Islamic Ruling (Ahkaams ) :
1. Sunnah – Which were initiated by other Prophets before Muhammad SAW
2. Qurani Akhaams – Which are initiated by Muhammad SAW only
I’m not denying the fact that the Muhammad SAW cannot issue any new Rulings (Ahkaam) in the Religion, but I’m only saying that if he issues any new rulings in the religion, it must be categorised under the List of Quran’s Rulings and not in the List of Sunnah. Otherwise, Why did Ghamidi Sb categorised the Prohibition of Pork in the list of rulings of the Quran just because this tradition (Rawayat) of Prohibiting Pork had ended in Deen e Ibrahimi ?
If Pork Prohibition cannot be categorised under the List of Sunnah on the reason that this Rawayat was ended in Deen e Ibrahimi then how can he Categorise Eid Festivals in the List of Sunnah where were never been the part of Deen e Ibrahimi ?
Here is the Video of Link where Ghamidi Sb explained the reason of not placing Pork Prohibition in Sunnah
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Ahsan
Moderator May 21, 2025 at 11:07 pmIn the video, he said pork prohibition was ended among arabs so Quran placed a Hukum.
But Eids are practical rituals not started by Quran and has been initiated by Prophet and has reached us with tawattur.
Or perhaps I am unable to understand your question.@Irfan76 sb can you please help out?
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar May 22, 2025 at 1:21 amThe prohibition of pork is not a standalone directive; rather, it is a specific application of the broader command of prohibited for eating.
In contrast, the Sunnah refers to the established practices of the Prophet (ﷺ). He was divinely authorized to introduce, refine, or expand the practices he received as the practices of the Abrahamic religion.
Ghamidi saheb writes:
پانچواں اصول یہ ہے کہ وہ چیزیں جو محض بیان فطرت کے طور پر آئی ہیں ،وہ بھی سنت نہیں ہیں،الاّ یہ کہ انبیا علیہم السلام نے اُن میں سے کسی چیز کو اٹھا کر دین کا لازمی جز بنا دیا ہو ۔ -
Abrar Ahmad
Member May 30, 2025 at 10:51 amThanks a Lot, I got ur Point
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