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How Do We Know That Universe Is Created?
Ghamidi sahab always says that if it becomes clear that things around are created that it must are creation with designer or creator…and he adds that in case of God it doesnt beco e clear that he is created!
So my qns are;
1)What is difference between created and non created thing,how to know if something is created or not? And how Allah is not created…
2)if we are unable to see God ,how we are sure that he os uncreated?
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How Do We Know That Universe Is Created?
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Summarized from The Divine Reality by Hamza. pg 74 and …
The Qur’an outlines four possible explanations for how something comes into existence:
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Created by nothing: “Or were they created by nothing?”
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Self-created: “Or were they the creators of themselves?”
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Created by something created: “Or did they create the heavens and the Earth?”—implying that something created by another created thing ultimately leads to a chain of created causes.
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Created by something uncreated.
The universe exists and is made up of real, physical entities. Since an actual infinite number of differentiated physical things cannot exist in the real world, the universe cannot be infinite. This implies that the universe is finite and, therefore, must have had a beginning.
If the universe had a beginning, it could not have come into existence by:
Nothing, because nothing cannot produce something.
Itself, because something cannot cause its own existence.
Could the universe have been created by something else that was itself created? That too is not a sufficient explanation. It would lead to an endless chain of created causes, which doesn’t ultimately account for the origin of everything.
To understand why an infinite chain of created causes is irrational, consider this analogy:
Imagine a sniper has a target in sight and radios headquarters for permission to shoot. HQ, however, tells him to wait while they get approval from a higher authority. That authority then seeks permission from someone even higher, and this continues endlessly. Will the sniper ever receive the order to shoot? Obviously not—because the command is stuck in an infinite loop.
This shows that in a chain of dependent causes, there must be a final authority—something that does not rely on anything else. Similarly, the universe must ultimately have been created by something uncreated—a necessary being that is the first cause and is not dependent on anything else.
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plz also see Discussion 86375
ask.ghamidi.org
Can We Intellectually Prove God'S Existence? | کیا خدا کا وجود عقل سے ثابت ہوسکت - Ask Ghamidi
Part 1-00:00:10 — Reason demands God "must exist," but His existence relies on Prophetic testimony (Quran 7:172-173, Bukhari 1358).00:01:04 —
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Its answer for universe is created,but doesnt answer how to distinguish between created and uncreated thing?
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If it is dependent on anything or consist of individual finite items or has beginning, we can say it is created.
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First of all;
1)how do you know that universe came from nothing….for someone it may have had existed before big bang in some other form…
2)if design is criteria…that Allah would also be with design…so is he also created one..?
3)as you see beginning of universe,i see beginningless universe….
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Please see first reponse for all points you raised. It already questions, does it need a uncreated being or not.
From current understanding, our universe has a beginning. There is no way we can guess with certainty what happened before big bang without breaking physical laws atleast.
Hence, dwelling on what could have i will rather focus on what we observe today.
I will suggest you to read divine reality، it talks about every point you are talking about. Link is already there in my first post
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