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  • Is It Okay To Enter Public Bathhouses?

    Posted by Torik Kaddafi on July 6, 2025 at 2:13 am

    Can men and women enter public baths? (of course men and women are separated). I understand that even in men-only or women-only areas they cannot openly display their private parts, so what about places like public baths? ……… Is it allowed to go to public baths like onsen in Japan? I also put a hadith related to this case.

    Al-Qasim bin Abil-Qasim as-Saba’i narrated from a preacher who was addressing the troops in al-Qustanteeniyyah, that he heard him narrate that Umar bin al-Khattab رضي الله عنه said: O people, I heard the Messenger of Allah ﷺ say: `Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, let him not sit at a table where alcohol is being passed around; whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, let him not enter a bathhouse unless he is wearing a waist wrapper; and whoever (among women) believes in Allah and the Last Day, let her not enter bathhouses (at all).”

    Musnad Ahmad 125

    https://sunnah.com/ahmad:125

    It was narrated from Abu Malih AL-HUdhail that some women from the people of Hims asked permission to enter upon Aisha. She said: “Perhaps you are among those (women) who enter bathhouses? I heard the Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) say: ‘Any woman who takes off her clothes anywhere but in her husband’s house, has torn the screen between her and Allah.'”

    Sunan Ibn Majah 3750

    https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3750

    Torik Kaddafi replied 2 weeks, 6 days ago 2 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Umer

    Moderator July 7, 2025 at 8:15 pm

    If complete privacy is possible then there is no harm. But if there is risk of exposure which would result is violation of the dress norms mentioned in Quran, then it should be avoided. I have explained the reason in my response below:

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    • Torik Kaddafi

      Member July 7, 2025 at 9:37 pm

      “If complete privacy is possible then there is no harm” What you mean by complete privacy is that when you take a shower, you must be completely alone? Can’t be together even if you are of the same gender?

    • Umer

      Moderator July 7, 2025 at 10:38 pm

      Correct.

    • Torik Kaddafi

      Member July 8, 2025 at 1:30 am

      I understand… so public baths like onsen in Japan are prohibited because they do not provide complete privacy. Am I correct, sir?

    • Umer

      Moderator July 9, 2025 at 8:19 pm

      If you are covered during the open bath then it is not prohibited, otherwise yes.

    • Torik Kaddafi

      Member July 9, 2025 at 8:44 pm

      I see.. but if someone understands the guidelines yet still enters without covering their private parts while bathing in a public bath (of course, men and women are separated), is this considered a major sin or a minor sin, sir?

    • Umer

      Moderator July 9, 2025 at 11:53 pm

      Taking bath with exposed private parts in front of others still fall within Fawahish. But in this scenario, it is a minor sin. A muslim should refrain from such activities. However, If someone violates religious guidelines intentionally out of arrogance, then it becomes a major sin.

    • Torik Kaddafi

      Member July 10, 2025 at 2:26 am

      I see, even though I think that when people still know that adultery is a grave sin and he went there just to bathe and not to show off his genitals, they are still far from being arrogant.

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