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Does Embroidered Necklines Fall Under Zeenat
Posted by Saba Bilal on July 20, 2025 at 12:46 amDo embroidered necklines on shirts as typical of wedding cloths, fall under Zeenat to be covered or what is revelaled as part of clothing ?
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Does Embroidered Necklines Fall Under Zeenat
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Noreen Khan
Member July 21, 2025 at 3:31 am???
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Noreen Khan
Member July 23, 2025 at 3:10 am????
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Umer
Moderator July 31, 2025 at 3:39 amThe same ruling applies as mentioned in the following thread:
ask.ghamidi.org
Ruling For Fancy Dress Which Is Highy Embroidered - Ask Ghamidi
According to the directives of norms of gender interaction in surah nur is a woman required to cover a modest but fancy dress(which is an embellishment)or
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Wareesha Khan
Member July 31, 2025 at 11:30 amاگر زیور نہ پہنا گیا ہو، لیکن سینے کی جگہ پر کپڑوں میں کڑھائی یا خوبصورت ڈیزائن بنا ہو، تو اسے ڈھانپنا کیوں لازم ہے؟ اسلام میں اس پر اتنی سختی کیوں ہے؟
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Saba Bilal
Member August 2, 2025 at 2:02 amThankyou for the link! I have a follow up question though : there are very clearly distinctly embroidered necks and bosoms especially on fancy dresses sometimes however some amount of simple embroidery or printed decorations are found on everyday clothes aswell. Will the same ruling apply to those aswell since they aren’t fancy cloths, just decent everyday ones made to look better with use of prints and some embroidery along the neck lines . I guess what I’m asking is at what point do cloths become Zeenat especially because the cloth ( duppatta) used to cover it will also be some form of pretty cloth
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Umer
Moderator August 6, 2025 at 1:13 amSince the chest area of a woman is also like other private parts, therefore the ruling to hide any Zeenat on chest area is very specific in Quran. If there is any adornment on chest area, then it need not be displayed in front of Na-mahram people. If it is something too basic to be considered as an adornment, then it may not be required to be hidden. But this needs to be decided by the person themselves.
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Saba Bilal
Member August 6, 2025 at 2:36 amI see! Sometimes the duppatta themselves are fancy which might defeat the purpose if they are more fancier than the dress or draped in a manner that can emphasise the chest, so let me ask this :
If the covering is less fancy( simpler in comparison) than the cloths so that it takes less attention than the actual dress , is that alright?
If the covering is fancy but large and draped in a way that the bosom is no longer prominent( like a curtain falling over the body ) in any way, is that acceptable ?
I am asking because a lot of normal duppattas have some decorations aswell but don’t really attract attention in the outer outfit.
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Saba Bilal
Member August 6, 2025 at 3:29 amFrom what I understand cloths usually are a form of Zeenat, albeit a mild one, coming under “what is usually apparent “ except for bosom area so that should be covered in front of na mahram. But is it possible that the khimar ( coverings-scarfs, duppattas in my culture ) will also come into “ what is usually apparent” unless used in a way that is obviously defeating the purpose ? I ask because, since asking this question, I have noticed most duppattas are also pretty adorned cloths themselves , they serve their purpose because they usually cover the general chest area shape and add an extra layer of clothing. If I like the colour of someone’s scarf, I may notice it more but I’m definitely not noticing that area ( but I’m also not a man). I hope this isn’t silly, I’ve become very anxious about what how simple my duppatta should be and that only thing that seems to be no adornment is a plain black one as that can’t possibly be pretty.
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Umer
Moderator August 8, 2025 at 12:42 pmDay to day clothes and dupattas which are accepted and known to the society as day to day are not considered that kind of zeenat which is required to be covered. They may include minor embroidery or regular designing. But this has to be decided by the person whether or not this is the case.
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Saba Bilal
Member August 8, 2025 at 7:13 pmThankyou!
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