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  • Is This Worldly Test Majorly For Men?

    Posted by Muhammd Aurangzeb on July 30, 2025 at 10:53 am

    The more and more I study our religion the more and more I am getting this understanding that Allah is instructing men and giving guidelines to men majorly. All the prophets are men, Men are made Qayoom, most of the instruction in Quran as per my understanding is towards men even if it’s for their women or worldly matters. From the start of mankind Adam (A.S) is majorly discussed and how Allah gave him the knowledge and the incident of Iblees and how Adam apologize to Allah then Noah (A.S) as well as Abrahim (A.S) and his sons.

    From all this I feel like this whole test if for men majorly, women are there, they have their role and they will be questioned but for men I feel like Allah has set this stage of temporary world even when we are being told about Jannah the most rewards are towards men. All this makes me think the real test is for men.

    Anyone ever thought the same or any guidance or Ghamidi sb lecture on something similar?

    Jazakallah!

    @Irfan76

    Muhammd Aurangzeb replied 16 hours, 36 minutes ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Is This Worldly Test Majorly For Men?

  • Ally Usama

    Member July 30, 2025 at 12:04 pm

    You are not the only one who thought the same. I also, when reading the Qur’an and previous scriptures, thought the same. I can share with you my view and how I see these things. I don’t know what Ghamidi Sahab’s view is on this particular topic. Please keep in mind that I may not actually believe this view, as I try to be as unbiased as possible when trying to know what the Qur’an actually says. I don’t try to mold or accept an interpretation which I want to believe, but rather I try to truly understand what the Qur’an actually says—whether I actually believe it or not. In this way, I come across interpretations which I believe, and sometimes I keep my objections to others.

    So, coming to your question, here’s what I think:


    1. When reading the Qur’an and even previous scriptures, one thing is evident in all these scriptures and in the pages of the Qur’an: that God mostly talks to, commands, and gives instructions to men. Even when you read the story of Adam and Iblis, you’ll notice the same pattern—that God commanded the angels and jinn to prostrate in front of Adam. You will also notice the main character here is Adam (man), and Eve is mentioned later in the story.


    2. I totally thought the same thing literally—that the test is majorly for men. And you also notice the traits in men which suggest to this view. You see, when it comes to going to any extent men can do wonders. See the history of mankind: all the conquerors, all the major inventions, literature, poetry, arts—literally every manifestation of what a human is capable of—you see best manifest in men. I completely thought the same thing as you mentioned here:

    “From all this I feel like this whole test is for men majorly, women are there, they have their role and they will be questioned but for men I feel like Allah has set this stage of temporary world even when we are being told about Jannah the most rewards are towards men. All this makes me think the real test is for men.”

    There are many more things I want to say. Maybe I will, if I find the right words. Please let me know what more you think about this view.

    (As I said in the start, I may or may not actually believe all that I say. It’s just me and my imagination trying to comprehend scriptures.)

  • Muhammd Aurangzeb

    Member July 30, 2025 at 2:33 pm

    Jazakallah! brother. I totally agree with you. It’s not something I fully believe either, but the more I understand the religion, the more I’m reaching the point where I feel that all of this is staged as a test for men. Allah says that this universe and everything in it was created for humans. In the same way, I believe women are also part of this world and this test. That’s why it’s mentioned in a hadith that Eve was created from the left rib of Adam (AS), and many other narrations say that women are created from the rib of their husband. They are part of this test.

    There’s a hadith (just sharing the meaning here) where the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said that women are one of the greatest trials (fitna) for men. If we look at the world today, women are indeed one of the greatest tests for men. As husbands, men have to remain patient, guide their wives toward the right path, and will be questioned about this responsibility. Even in the Qur’an, I believe there’s a verse that mentions your wives and children as a test.

    Outside of marriage, women can also be a test in terms of desire. These desires, if not controlled for the sake of Allah, can harm a man’s deen. In today’s world, there are countless opportunities where a man could easily go astray.

    Also (and this is just my personal observation), I find that in today’s world, men are often more reasonable when it comes to understanding and practicing religion. Most of the time, I see sisters struggling to accept certain aspects of the religion, perhaps because they don’t fully understand their role. On the other hand, I rarely see men being biased toward parts of the religion that don’t benefit them. Even if they don’t follow a certain teaching, they at least acknowledge it as truth.

    As you mentioned, all the scriptures convey the same message, but I haven’t seen any scholars discussing this specific topic. One of the biggest hints for me is how the Qur’an describes Jannah and its rewards for men things that align with what many men desire in this world: comfort, food, gardens, and companions like hoors or wives (though that’s a separate topic).

    I’m leaning toward the belief that Allah assigned women a supporting role, and they will be questioned according to that role. I even read somewhere that women will be with their husbands in Jannah, and that in worldly life, much of their religious duty revolves around their relationship with their husbands after worshiping Allah. Unfortunately, many sisters don’t seem to understand this, but I do believe that men will face a much tougher reckoning on the Day of Judgment.

    What are your thoughts about Hoors?

    I know that Ghamidi sb says the hoors mentioned in the Quran are actually women (wives) from this world, but I don’t fully believe that. In Surah Ar-Rahman, it is stated that no human or jinn has ever touched them, which doesn’t make sense to me if they are women from this world. Also, not every husband and wife will be together in Jannah.

    Just a question and imagination, If the narrations about women entering Paradise with their husbands are not authentic, then it’s possible that women from this world may not necessarily be with their husbands in Jannah. They may have their own distinct rewards/Jannah—especially considering how the descriptions of Paradise often highlight rewards for men.

    Also, will humans and jinn be together in Jannah?

  • Ally Usama

    Member July 30, 2025 at 3:37 pm

    Thank you for responding in detail and profoundly. After reading your response, it seems you genuinely thought about things, and your imagination is also very good. The questions you have asked—I will give my view on them, but before that, I want to second the thought and agree with you on the point that men are generally more reasonable with religion. I’ve also seen this: men are more into spreading, practicing, and understanding religion as compared to women. This is also a general observation of mine, which may be wrong. I personally think that both women and men are equal in terms of the creation of God, but in terms of roles, God put some over others based on the roles He assigned to them.

    Coming to your questions:

    1. What are your thoughts about Hoors?

    A. I also cannot fully agree with the interpretation of Ghamidi sb. I agree with him when he says the word “Hoor” is an adjective—and that is, by the way, correct. His interpretation makes sense here compared to the traditional narrative, which says that whenever the Quran says “Hoor,” it refers only to some heavenly created women. Now, Ghamidi sb says these are adjectives used for the women or wives of this world. Here, he confined the meaning of “Hoor” to the women of this world only. But can it not also be used as an adjective for the women of the heavens? So I am open to both possibilities here and don’t limit the meaning of “Hoor” only to earthly women. Moreover, as you mentioned, the Hadiths and Surah Rahman seem closer to the traditional interpretation.

    2. To your second question—whether humans and jinn will be together in Jannah:

    I actually don’t know. I only make assumptions. My take on this is that when humans who have made it to Jannah enter it, the angels will greet them—it is mentioned in the Quran. Now, from the Quran, it seems that jinn are more closely related to angels than to humans. So if humans are able to interact with angels, and angels greet them in Jannah, we can say that both humans and jinn will also be in the same realm and able to see and interact (I believe).

  • Muhammd Aurangzeb

    Member July 30, 2025 at 9:39 pm

    Likewise, brother!I’m glad you replied to my question. Mashallah, I can see that you also spend time reflecting on both deen and dunya, which is inspiring.

    I completely agree with you on the equality of men and women in terms of human dignity. However, men and women have been created differently—physically, mentally, and biologically. In relationships (as explained in a video I watched by Ghamidi sb) their roles differ. For example, a husband is given more authority and a higher position in the relationship, but that same husband holds a lower position than his mother, who is a woman. This shows how rank or responsibility is situational.

    In a family system, the father typically holds the highest authority. As we discussed earlier, since this life is primarily a test for men, it makes sense that the one in the leadership role would also be the one accountable for decisions on the Day of Judgment.

    Regarding Hoors and the rewards of Jannah, I feel these descriptions are given in terms we can understand in this world. The actual rewards will be far greater and beyond our understanding. Men are often attracted to women and wealth in this life. The concept of Hoors may reflect the first part, while wealth is symbolized through descriptions of luxuries in Paradise like rivers of milk, alcohol and delicious food, and beautiful women because thats what we do in this world when we get wealth.

    I also agree with your point that “Hoor” could be an adjective, possibly referring to righteous women of Paradise maybe a separate creation.

    As for the other question, we can only assume. The Qur’an mentions that the Day of Judgment is for humans and jinn, so it’s possible both will be in the same Jannah, though at different levels just as there are different ranks among humans.

    It’s good to know I’m not the only one who feels this worldly test is focused more on men.

    What are your thoughts about other creations besides humans and jinn?Personally, I believe that only human and jin exists in this solar system or maybe even our galaxy or universe but there could be more. The Qur’an mentions seven skies, which I interpret as possibly referring to seven universes. It’s possible that other creations of Allah exist in those realms some might currently be undergoing their own test, or maybe their test has already been completed.

    From what I understand, Heaven and Hell will be created after the destruction of this world/universe, using the matter from this universe. If that’s the case, perhaps the other universes have already gone through their phases or will go through them in the future.

    Allah knows best these are just thoughts which circle around in my mind.

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