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  • Alcohol Used In Bread, Cakes Etc

    Umer updated 1 month, 1 week ago 6 Members · 14 Replies
  • Abdullah Abbas

    Member January 16, 2026 at 3:36 pm

    Brother for what I have understand as long as the quantity is low there is no problem.I live in Italy and here they treat the Bread with Etholic Alchool ,my family for precautation don’t take the bread ,but I seracchi for very long,and i have understand that for example le you eat 100 of thah bread you won’t be intoxication and for thah reason is permissibile,but on other hand for example beer thah contain high Alchhol if you drink 10 of them you will be intoxicated for that reason thah beer will be prohibitaed.Another thing is that the quantity of alchool is such low thah when mix with other ingredienti the action of Alchol finish for thah reason is not problem.This is what I know .Corect me if I ma wrong please

    • Mahnoor Tariq

      Contributor January 16, 2026 at 8:42 pm

      Your confusion is understandable, especially when you live in a non-Muslim country where alcohol is already part of the wider food culture and it’s simply not realistic to investigate every product in detail. Islam does not expect believers to live in constant suspicion or anxiety. Accountability in Islam is tied to knowledge, intention, and reasonable ability, not to what is hidden, unavoidable, or practically impossible to control. Allah does not burden a person beyond their capacity, and living in such societies is itself a real limitation.
      The Islamic concern about alcohol in food is not mainly about chemistry or intoxication, but about intentional choice and normalization. When alcohol is clearly and deliberately added to food as an ingredient and a person knowingly chooses it while reasonable alternatives exist, Islam discourages that choice because food is a daily habit and Islam wants to keep alcohol out of normal consumption where possible. However, this does not mean that Muslims are required to scrutinize every label or avoid food whenever there is uncertainty. If alcohol is present only as an incidental or unavoidable trace in industrial food, or its use is unclear and not intended for intoxication, then there is no sin in consuming it.
      In non-Muslim countries, alcohol is often embedded in production systems in ways individuals cannot realistically avoid. Islam recognizes this widespread difficulty and does not hold people responsible for what they cannot reasonably prevent. The principle is simple: Islam regulates your conscious choices, not the entire environment you are forced to live in. You are accountable for what you knowingly adopt and normalize for yourself, not for what society has already normalized around you.

  • Raja Haseeb

    Member January 17, 2026 at 6:36 am

    The two responses collide with eachother.

    According to 1st reponce of Abdullah its halal. But as per 2nd responce of Mahnoor its Haram but she applied principle of Amooma e Balwa(Things which you cannot avoid or inother words as a last resort)

    Its still getting more confusing.

  • Abdullah Abbas

    Member January 17, 2026 at 6:54 am

    I agree with your main point, and I think you are right in saying that Allah does not punish people for what they cannot reasonably avoid or do not know. Accountability in Islam is based on intention, knowledge, and realistic ability.

    That said, there is also an important nuance. In many food products, especially in non-Muslim countries, certain substances related to alcohol are used for technical reasons, such as preservation or processing. For example, in bread and other baked goods, alcohol-related agents or fermentation by-products may be present in very small amounts, and in many cases they evaporate or disappear during the production process.

    Of course, it is possible to find products without these substances, but in practice this can be quite difficult, especially when they are widespread and not clearly indicated. This is why Islamic scholars distinguish between intentional consumption of alcohol as such and incidental or transformed substances used in food production.

    In Islamic jurisprudence, there is also the concept of istihāla (transformation), where a substance that is originally haram undergoes a complete change in its nature and properties. If the intoxicating effect and original characteristics are no longer present, many scholars consider the final product permissible.

    I am not saying that products with clearly stated alcohol percentages (for example, drinks labeled as containing 1% alcohol) should be considered acceptable. Rather, the point is that trace amounts, processing aids, or transformed substances that no longer intoxicate and are not consumed as alcohol fall into a different category.

    Ultimately, Islam does not expect believers to live in constant anxiety or suspicion, especially in societies where these issues are embedded in the food system. Allah knows our intentions and our limitations.

    JazakAllah Khair

  • Umer

    Moderator January 17, 2026 at 9:32 am

    You can get guidance from the following video of Ghamidi Sahab:

    Please refer to the video below from 1:16:28 to 1:18:37

    https://youtu.be/raf8eKjlC2s?t=3755

    • Raja Haseeb

      Member January 20, 2026 at 6:24 am

      In short its halal. So if thing is halal there is no need of amooma e balwa principal. Right?

    • Umer

      Moderator January 20, 2026 at 7:06 am

      If the chemical composition of the alcohol changes during the heating or baking process, then consuming such products would not be prohibited.

      Similarly, if the cooking or baking alcohol/wine used in the preparation is known not to cause intoxication even when consumed in large quantities, then its consumption would also not be prohibited.

    • Raja Haseeb

      Member January 21, 2026 at 11:15 am

      The video of Ghamdi shabbyou posted, he says if large qty doesn’t intoxicate you then small is allowed. But your point of view is different here. The Alchoal is sprayed on end product, which is in its original form then what yours point of view on it?

    • Umer

      Moderator January 23, 2026 at 5:57 am

      Ghamidi Sahab said two things:
      1). Cooking process which changes the chemical form of Alcohol, makes food halal to consume.
      2). If cooking wine/alcohol is known to be not intoxicating, even if consumed in large quantity, then there is no issue of prohibition to begin with.

      What you described does not fall in the above categories as far as I’ve understood the situation. Therefore, it cannot be considered Halal to consume such material where intoxicating alcohol is sprayed on the end product even in small quantity.

  • Abdullah Abbas

    Member January 17, 2026 at 12:24 pm

    Thanks I understand i follower the opinion thah is permissibile of it change his chimichal firme.But everyone do what he think is right

  • Maria Ali

    Member January 17, 2026 at 7:58 pm

    May Allah guide you on the straight path.

    • Abdullah Abbas

      Member January 18, 2026 at 12:08 am

      You are saying thah I am wrong?

  • Maria Ali

    Member January 19, 2026 at 3:33 am

    No, this is a dua.

    But to be honest, I was writing somewhere else and due to a notification, I wrote it here. I hadn’t read your opinion.

    Salam

  • Mohammad Ali Soomro

    Member January 19, 2026 at 3:51 am

    Brother when I searched about this matter. I went into mathematics logic. That if alcohol is Haram to consume then whether a little or large is Haram. Then I found out about trace quantities and went more confused. Later I understood that it’s not the quantity of ethyl alcohol that’s the problem. It’s of what falls in the category of Khamr. Khamr is anything that will intoxicate me. Bananas also have some ethyl alcohol in trace quantities in the areas that get brown and dark, but I can never reach a point of intoxication humanly with eating bananas. My stomach would burst but intoxication won’t happen, the banana will not fall into category of Khamr.

    Same goes for cakes pastries and other things. But if some consumable item was there, which would intoxicate me even if with taking large doses, then this would automatically fall into category of Khamr and hence it would be impermissible, little quantity or big quantity, both.

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