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  • Yajuj Majuj Wall

    Posted by Taimur Mughal on January 17, 2026 at 2:01 pm

    I was watching javed ghamdi sahib explaining that the barrier that was made to keep the yajuj majuj by dzul qarnayn was an event of that certain time. That wall or barrier perhaps is long gone or destroyed and those yajuj majuj long ago already escaped through the world. But the Quran in surah kahf says that when the promise of my Lord will come He will level it to ground.

    The verse ad we read is saying that angrier or wall will be leveled on then the promise aka day of judgement comes will be leveled down by Allah. So how come ghamdi saab says it is long ago destroyed and even the ruins were later discovered by the abbasyds arabs.

    Mahnoor Tariq replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Yajuj Majuj Wall

    Mahnoor Tariq updated 1 month, 3 weeks ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
  • Mahnoor Tariq

    Contributor January 18, 2026 at 1:26 am

    According to Javed Ahmad Ghamidi, the wall of Dhul-Qarnayn described in Surah al-Kahf was a historical barrier, built to restrain certain violent nations for a specific period of history. The Qur’an narrates this as a real event of its own time, not as an end-times structure meant to last until the Day of Judgment.The verse says:“When the promise of my Lord comes, He will level it to the ground.” (18:98)
    This statement does not require that the wall must remain physically standing until the Day of Judgment. In Qur’anic language, “the promise of my Lord” refers to Allah’s decision to end that restraint, not necessarily the final Hour itself. In other words, the promise was fulfilled when Allah allowed those nations to break free, and that fulfillment included the wall becoming ineffective, collapsing, or disappearing over time.
    Ghamidi explains that once Allah’s purpose for the wall ended, its physical destruction or erosion became inevitable. History supports this: later Muslim historians (including during the Abbasid period) reported remains and traces of such fortifications in Central Asia, but no intact wall still restraining entire nations. This aligns with the Qur’anic idea that the barrier would not be permanent.
    So the verse is not saying: “The wall will stand untouched until the Day of Judgment, and only then collapse.”Rather, it is saying:“The wall exists only as long as Allah wills. When He decides otherwise, it will be rendered meaningless and leveled.”

    The destruction could be gradual, historical, and natural, not a dramatic end-times collapse.

    Ya’juj and Ma’juj spreading across the world is already part of human history, not something waiting to happen suddenly in the future.

    • Taimur Mughal

      Member January 18, 2026 at 1:58 am

      You explained it very good JazakAllah. You are saying that yajuj majuj are already on the rise?

      Isn’t there a verse in Quran that says Islam will prevail once again and dominate all religions even if the disbelievers dislike it?

      That islam was once dominating the world but it will do so again?

      Or is the scene now as u explained yajuj majuj are on the rise already and their fitna is slowly reaching the peak?

    • Mahnoor Tariq

      Contributor January 18, 2026 at 2:25 am

      The confusion comes from how we understand “dominance” in the Qur’an.
      “He it is who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth so that He may make it prevail over all religions, even if the disbelievers dislike it.”(Qur’an 9:33, also 61:9)
      However, according to Javed Ahmad Ghamidi, this verse does not mean permanent political or military domination of the world by Muslims.Ghamidi clarifies that “prevailing” here means intellectual, moral, and evidentiary dominance — that Islam’s message becomes fully clarified, conclusively conveyed, and historically established. This happened during the time of the Prophet ﷺ and the Rightly Guided Caliphs, when Islam became a living, functioning proof (ḥujjah) before humanity.It does not promise that Muslims will always rule the world, nor that Islam will keep dominating politically until the Day of Judgment.
      Then what about Ya’juj and Ma’juj?In Ghamidi’s understanding, Ya’juj and Ma’juj represent godless, materialistic, power-driven civilizations. Their “release” does not mean a sudden future event only — it refers to a historical process where such forces gradually gain dominance once divine restraint is lifted.
      So yes, in that sense:Their rise has already happened historicallyTheir influence continues to expandTheir “fitnah” reaches its peak near the end of history, not necessarily through one dramatic moment
      So how do both ideas fit together?There is no contradiction:Islam’s dominance = truth being fully delivered and established
      Ya’juj–Ma’juj’s rise = moral and spiritual decline of human power structures afterward
      Islam does not promise a never-ending golden age. After truth is made clear, history moves according to human choices, and the Qur’an itself says corruption will spread before the end.
      Islam already prevailed in the Qur’anic sense
      Political ups and downs are not the measure of truth
      Ya’juj and Ma’juj represent a long-term civilizational process, not just a future invasion
      The Qur’an prepares believers for moral clarity, not worldly triumph guarantees

      So the current world situation does not contradict the Qur’an it actually fits the Qur’an’s broader view of history quite well.

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