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  • Quran 51:49 – 'And Of All Things Two Types'

    Posted by A Hasan on September 13, 2020 at 11:02 am

    Is this just a ltierary technique like ‘I meet my friends every day’ (even if they don’t meet on weekends)? Because there are EG asexual creatures

    Umer replied 2 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 31 Replies
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  • Quran 51:49 – 'And Of All Things Two Types'

    Umer updated 2 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 31 Replies
  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 13, 2020 at 3:33 pm

    Please clarify your question – if you’re referring to an ayah of the Quran then please provide a reference. If it’s something else then please provide context.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor September 13, 2020 at 3:38 pm

      Ya Sin – 36:36

      Arabic

      سُبۡحَٰنَ ٱلَّذِى خَلَقَ ٱلۡأَزۡوَٰجَ كُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنۢبِتُ ٱلۡأَرۡضُ وَمِنۡ أَنفُسِهِمۡ وَمِمَّا لَا يَعۡلَمُونَ

      Adh-Dhariyat – 51:49

      Arabic

      وَمِن كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ خَلَقۡنَا زَوۡجَيۡنِ لَعَلَّكُمۡ تَذَكَّرُونَ

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 13, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    Quran 36:36 answers your question itself. Of course 51:49 is a generalization of 36:36.

    Quran 36:36

    Translation by Asad

    Limitless in His glory is He who has created opposites in whatever the earth produces, and in men’s own selves, and in that of which [as yet] they have no knowledge.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor September 13, 2020 at 3:53 pm

      So what is the opposite of a tree?

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator September 13, 2020 at 7:44 pm

      There’s no opposite of a tree, but there are male and female trees. Also lots of trees produce both male and female flowers.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor September 14, 2020 at 1:33 am

      What about purely asexual species?

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator September 14, 2020 at 1:48 am

      Please read the translation of the ayah again.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor September 14, 2020 at 1:53 am

      ‘Glorious is the Being24 Who made all the pairs, of things which the earth sprouts and from among these people themselves too and also of things which they do not know.25 (36)‘

      By Javed Ghamidi (Dr Shehzad Saleem)

      Pair from -all- things the Earth produces. So -all- things should be either male or female. I can see how those asexual bugs aren’t produces from the Earth. But to my knowledge not -all- things are in pairs.

      Dr Shehzad Saleem explained it as a linguistic use like we say ‘I meet my friends everyday in school’. Even though we don’t meet on weekends.

      I was just looking if there’s any more opinions

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator September 14, 2020 at 2:17 am

      If you receive an answer from a scholar and you’re investigating it further, please state that context in your future questions so that moderators can research and consider the scholar’s answer as well.

  • Umer

    Moderator September 14, 2020 at 2:58 am

    For comments of Ghamidi Sahab, please refer to the video below from 25:23 to 26:55

    https://youtu.be/6tZYLtAIhGA?start=25m23s

  • muhammad saad

    Member November 10, 2021 at 11:08 pm

    @Irfan76 sir if you can guide regarding these two Quranic verses .it will be helpful.

  • Umer

    Moderator November 11, 2021 at 2:50 am

    Please also refer to the video below from 3:30 to 7:53

    https://youtu.be/4LhfIHp13oU?t=210

    Alternative Link: ilm-o-Hikmat 07-05-2017

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar November 11, 2021 at 9:43 pm

    This is about pairs, “all” is in the perspective of pairs. It means all which are pairs, are produced by God.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor November 12, 2021 at 3:09 am

      So would you translate this ayah as:

      Adh-Dhariyat – 51:49

      Arabic

      وَمِن كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ خَلَقۡنَا زَوۡجَيۡنِ لَعَلَّكُمۡ تَذَكَّرُونَ

      ‘And if everything we created (even) the pairs!’

      Or

      ‘And of everything we created (we created it as) pairs’

    • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

      Scholar November 12, 2021 at 3:55 am

      “And We have created all things in pairs that you may receive a reminder.”

      It is not a scientific statement. It is already determined that it is about the observable phenomenon of paring, and it is to make it a premise for the conclusion, that the world too has a pair of the hereafter.

    • Umer

      Moderator November 12, 2021 at 4:07 am

      Also logical exceptions are a part of the content, they don’t need to be mentioned separately.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor November 12, 2021 at 4:43 am

      Yes but then how can it be a daleel? If I say all things are made of pairs except some organisms etc ∴ everything including this life has a pair eg the afterlife you could say actually that might just be one of the things without a pair

    • Umer

      Moderator November 12, 2021 at 9:58 pm

      We apply general principles/observation to things unless someting contrary comes to our attention. Life and afterlife are to be considered as a pair unless evidence suggests otherwise.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor November 13, 2021 at 7:46 am

      That’s like saying all things with wings can fly (we know of course that penguins can’t) and then saying ∴ ostriches can. But the having of wings isn’t the evidence rather there are many other factors.

      So just because most things have pairs why does that make it logically necessary that this life does have a pair?

    • Umer

      Moderator November 15, 2021 at 3:29 am

      Having wings isn’t an evidence enough – true, but lingustically, there’s no problem with this statement and we use such statements in normal routine e.g. all birds can fly etc.

      Secondly, the concept of afterlife is based on the very notion of pairing and this the way it has been described by God himself i.e. deeds and their rewards, injustice and justice, life and afterlife, earth and paradise etc. etc. So there’s more to afterlife and it’s relationship with this world than inferring this concept from this verse alone.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor November 15, 2021 at 3:31 am

      Sure I’m fine with the second paragraph but as far as I have spoken in language saying ‘all birds can fly’ is wrong and no one has really ever made such an over generalisation.

    • Sheharbano Ali

      Member February 23, 2022 at 9:01 am

      Can the pairing of all things be referring to perception/subjectivity? For example each thing in existence from a Quranic point of view could be serving either of the two purposes for the observer or the subject experiencing it. Either it is taking them closer to God or away from Him. Either it is serving as a means of reward or punishment. For example: the same wind can be a source of mercy or can be a means to destroy a nation.

      All things from their perception to usage to interpretation seem to be serving either of the two purposes. Wallahu Aalam. Could this explanation work or is it too far fetched?

    • Umer

      Moderator February 24, 2022 at 6:16 am

      There is a philosophical room for this argument but I don’t think that use of word “زَوۡجَیۡنِ” would be appropriate had it been the case.

    • Sheharbano Ali

      Member February 24, 2022 at 3:42 pm

      Could you please explain why would that be? For my benefit.

    • Umer

      Moderator February 26, 2022 at 8:00 am

      What you’re referring to are intrinsic properties of a thing, while “زَوۡجَیۡنِ” cannot be applied to express such properties.

  • muhammad saad

    Member November 12, 2021 at 12:17 am

    @Irfan76 thanks alot sir for your response

  • muhammad saad

    Member November 12, 2021 at 4:28 am

    this also might help

    “It destroyed everything by the command of its Lord, leaving nothing visible except their ruins. This is how We reward the wicked people.”

    Verse 46:25

    — Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

    In this verse word”qul” clearly donot mean it distroyed everything inluding cosomos.

  • muhammad saad

    Member November 12, 2021 at 4:35 am

    46. Al-Ahqaf – الأحقاف

    Paragraph 14 (24-25)

    فَلَمَّا رَاَوۡہُ عَارِضًا مُّسۡتَقۡبِلَ اَوۡدِیَتِہِمۡ ۙ قَالُوۡا ہٰذَا عَارِضٌ مُّمۡطِرُنَا ؕ بَلۡ ہُوَ مَا اسۡتَعۡجَلۡتُمۡ بِہٖ ؕ رِیۡحٌ فِیۡہَا عَذَابٌ اَلِیۡمٌ ﴿ۙ۲۴﴾ تُدَمِّرُ کُلَّ شَیۡءٍۭ بِاَمۡرِ رَبِّہَا فَاَصۡبَحُوۡا لَا یُرٰۤی اِلَّا مَسٰکِنُہُمۡ ؕ کَذٰلِکَ نَجۡزِی الۡقَوۡمَ الۡمُجۡرِمِیۡنَ ﴿۲۵﴾

    جاوید احمد غامدی

    پھر جب اُنھوں نے اُس عذاب کو، (جس کی دھمکی اُنھیں دی گئی تھی)، دیکھا کہ ایک بادل ہے جو اُن کی وادیوں کی طرف امڈا چلا آ رہا ہے تو کہنے لگے کہ یہ تو بادل ہے جو ہمیں سیراب کرنے والا ہے۔ نہیں، بلکہ یہ وہی چیز ہے جس کے لیے تم جلدی مچا رہے تھے۔ تند ہوا جس میں دردناک عذاب ہے۔

    یہ اپنے پروردگار کے حکم سے ہر چیز کو تہس نہس کر دے گی۔ پھر وہ ایسے ہو گئے کہ اُن کے گھروں کے سوا وہاں کوئی چیز نظر نہیں آتی تھی۔ ہم مجرم لوگوں کو اِسی طرح سزا دیتے ہیں۔

    موضوعات

    جاوید احمد غامدی

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar November 15, 2021 at 3:33 am

    All those things which are in pairsz they need to be in Paris. The world in its structure demands to have it’s counterpart which is missing otherwise it stands a futile venture. So God tells that He does not do things for nothing. When we keep it’s counterpart, the life after death for the sake accoumtability, the the scheme of its creation makes sense.

    Even if some things are not in pairs, but the world is among those ones which demand their counter part .

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar November 29, 2021 at 12:02 am

    *pairs

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