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Nabi Vs Rasool Proof
Posted by A Hasan on September 15, 2020 at 4:15 pmCan someone provide the proof for the linking of rasool with itmaam e hujjat. Specifically the proof that not all nabis are rasool?
Mohammad Yaseen replied 2 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies -
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Nabi Vs Rasool Proof
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Umer
Moderator September 16, 2020 at 5:02 amQuran doesn’t work this way where it defines every term before start of every chapter and later explains those terms one by one. But the way things have been placed in Quran and the context of their explanation if given due regard, it leaves no doubt that this is the only difference between Nabi and Rasul whenever they are used as a terminology in Quran.
Please see for difference between terms Nabi and Rasul:
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Sheharbano Ali
Member January 9, 2022 at 11:41 amچنانچہ دیکھ سکتے ہو کہ) ہم نے ہر قوم میں ایک رسول اِس دعوت کے ساتھ بھیجا تھا کہ اللہ کی بندگی کرو اور شیطان سے بچو، پھر اُن میں سے کچھ کو اللہ نے ہدایت بخشی اوراُن میں کچھ ایسے بھی ہوئے جن پر گم راہی مسلط ہو گئی۔ سو زمین میں چلو پھرو اور دیکھو کہ جھٹلانے والوں کا انجام کیا ہوا ہے؟
ہم نے جس بستی میں بھی کسی نبی کو رسول بنا کر بھیجا ہے، اُس کے لوگوں کو مالی اور جسمانی مصیبتوں [443] میں مبتلا کیاہے تاکہ وہ عاجزی اختیار [444] کریں
We sent a “rasul” towards every nation.
To whichever nation we sent a nabi as a “rasul”. Is rasul used in a diff meaning in both these verses?
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Umer
Moderator January 10, 2022 at 4:00 amThey are used in the same meaning i.e. Rasul as a terminology, not in literal sense.
(Please do share the Quranic references with your question)
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A Hasan
Contributor January 10, 2022 at 7:15 pmThis is why I think that the difference is not so much or pronounced or perhaps even present. You can’t just say these words have specific meanings and then wherever it goes against you just say it’s used in it’s literal meaning
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Umer
Moderator January 11, 2022 at 11:40 pmQuran (22:52) makes it very clear that Nabi and Rasul are different ranks:
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ قَبْلِكَ مِنْ رَّسُوْلٍ وَّلَا نَبِيٍّ إِلَّا إِذَا تَمَنَّى أَلْقَى الشَّيْطَانُ فِیْ أُمْنِيَّتِهِ فَيَنْسَخُ اللَّهُ مَا يُلْقِي الشَّيْطَانُ ثُمَّ يُحْكِمُ اللَّهُ آيَاتِهِ وَاللَّهُ عَلِيْمٌ حَكِيْمٌ. لِيَجْعَلَ مَا يُلْقِي الشَّيْطَانُ فِتْنَةً لِّلَّذِينَ فِیْ قُلُوبِهِمْ مَّرَضٌ وَّالْقَاسِيَةِ قُلُوبُهُمْ وَإِنَّ الظَّالِمِيْنَ لَفِي شِقَاقٍ بَعِيْدٍ. وَلِيَعْلَمَ الَّذِيْنَ أُوتُوا الْعِلْمَ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَيُؤْمِنُوْا بِهِ فَتُخْبِتَ لَهُ قُلُوبُهُمْ وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ لَهَادِ الَّذِيْنَ آمَنُوْا إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيْمٍ.
[O Prophet!] Whichever messenger or prophet We sent before you was faced with the situation that whenever he desired something, Satan caused disruption in his desire. Then God obliterates this disruption of Satan; then God strengthens His revelations and God is knowing and wise. This happens so that God makes this disruption of Satan a means of trial for those who have the ailment [of hypocrisy] in their hearts and whose hearts are hardened. In reality, these unjust people have gone very far in [their] hostility. And this also happens because those who have been given the knowledge of the Book of God should fully know that the truth has come from your Lord. So, their faith should be strengthened on it and their hearts bow down before it. And it is God’s decision that He will definitely show the straight path to those who have accepted faith. (Quran 22:52-54)
The only difference of opinion is about difference in responsibilty/nature of these ranks, which according to Farahi School (And previously by Ibn e Hazm as well), lies in perfect coherence with Quran.
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Sheharbano Ali
Member January 10, 2022 at 4:37 amہر قوم کے لیے ایک رسول ہے۔ پھر جب اُن کا رسول آجاتا ہے تو اُن کے درمیان انصاف کے ساتھ فیصلہ کر دیا جاتا ہے اور اُن پر کوئی ظلم نہیں کیا [66] جاتا
10:47 – “rasul” is used twice in this ayah. Is there also a diff between them?
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Umer
Moderator January 11, 2022 at 11:41 pmNo, there’s no difference here, Rasul is used as a terminology in both these instances.
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Sheharbano Ali
Member January 12, 2022 at 2:51 pmBut here to highlight the diff between the usage ghamidi sb quotes the same verse that you say uses rasul as a terminology in both the instances. Pls refer from 19:00
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Umer
Moderator January 12, 2022 at 11:42 pmGhamidi Sahab is saying the same thing, please listen to it again.
Here Rasul is used as a terminology in both these instances of Quran (10:47) i.e. the one with responsibility of itmam-e-hujjat.
Ghamidi Sahab is using this verse as a defining principle of what is Rasul (as a terminology).
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Mohammad Yaseen
Contributor January 13, 2022 at 8:26 am
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