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Quran And Atheistic Arguments
The Quran urges us to look at the night and the day and the twilight etc- they contain signs. Are these signs ones that prove the existence of God? Or do they prove his might and power and creativity.
If we see the context- the qurayshis and Jews already believed in God. So is it just proving his might and satin basically ‘God made these- he needs no partners’. But how would this argument make sense. Because they would just say this sign could have been made by two creators. Have I misunderstood?
And is there any context unknown to me that would allow these arguments to be appropriate for atheistic arguments?
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Quran And Atheistic Arguments
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‘اگر آسمان و زمین میں اللہ کے سوا اور معبود ہوتے تو زمین و آسمان درہم برہم ہوجاتے۔ جو باتیں یہ لوگ بناتے ہیں، اللہ مالکِ عرش ان سے پاک ہے۔”،(انبیا:22
”اللہ نے نہ تو کسی کو (اپنا) بیٹا بنایا ہے اور نہ اس کے ساتھ کوئی اور معبود ہے ایسا ہوتا تو ہر معبود اپنی اپنی مخلوقات کو لے کر چل دیتا اور ایک دوسرے پر غالب آجاتا۔ یہ لوگ جو کچھ (اللہ کے بارے میں) بیان کرتے ہیں اللہ اس سے پاک ہے۔”، (مومنون:91
There are many similarities between different organisms such as chimpanzee have 93% similar DNA to humans, which shows that there is only one creater. Ghamidi sahab explain this during the discussion on evolution.
This is from my little knowledge. Umer Qurashi sahab may expain it more clearly.
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That’s great and I’m sure Umer bhai will elaborate on this and the other question
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The purpose of these verses is Tazkeer and Tazkeer is always done by addressing the premise of argument-the very base of it. Its true that Quraysh and Jews believed in God, but we experience every day that human beings tend to forget very basic of the facts and need to be reminded about that; and in order to build the next level argument or reminder, first the very base needs to be reminded to get someone’s attention (which in case of Arabs at that time would be that this message is from the same God, who you already know created this and this etc. so get attentive) and then next level argument / reminder can be build.
In today’s time, the same tazkeer reminds us and take our attention right at the very basic phenomenon of creation which we take for granted and it does gives us an impetus to think.
The following comments of Ghamidi Sahab might also be helpful, though not directly related to the question but do address the dimension of atheism that you alluded to in your question:
Please refer to the video below from 1:10:24 to 1:13:24
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The verses of the Quran where empirical evidence is provided are specific to the context that they appear in. In other words, the context clarifies why certain evidence is being provided and it’s relation to the point being made. Also there are different audiences that the Quran addresses at different places, and these evidences are what generally those audiences can relate to.
I am not sure what you mean by the atheistic argument here because there are several kinds of atheists. If you’re pointing towards contemporary atheists who use science as a basis for their argument, I don’t think that they even have an argument to begin with. What they base their viewpoint on is a belief that’s void of any evidence. Concisely, they say that the laws of physics came into existence out of nothingness, and that this entire universe got created by those laws. Then they go through an infinite cycle of attempting to define and redefine obvious terms such as law and nothingness, and build atop extravagant theories complex enough to impress a layman. They’re, however, never able to establish the basis of their foundational assumptions – and it’s quite conceivable because imagination doesn’t have to have any basis.
Quran on the other hand compels it’s readers to accept or reject beliefs on the basis of evidence. It uses empirical evidence (both internal and external), appeals to our faculties of reason and rationality, and uses those facts from the history as evidence that it’s primarily addresses were well aware of.
In conclusion, when one truly understands the perspective of the Quran, all other epistemological theories, no matter how complex, seem primitive in comparison.
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There are a few angles to the question.
1. Is God separate from his attributes? What is a God without majesty, creativity, power etc!
2. Singularity or plurality of God? Can we arrive at a conclusion with reasoning?
3. Existence of God? Is it a natural conclusion?
If you are thinking of rebuttals to the atheist perspective, I can assure you they have a rebuttal for any reason we can think of.
So, when God talks to polytheists, HE elaborates HIS singularity and how everything that exists, does so because of it. HE will give examples with scientific reasons to prove this point. The ayat already shared testify to this.
When HE addresses the monotheistic religions, then HE addresses the truth of the message they already possess and how they have altered it and deviated from the true path.
Any attempt to reason with atheists on the evidence from the Qur’ān, will be of no avail as the Qur’ān is not evidence or logical in their perspective. Any discussion with them can get us confused. There is a lot of discussions and debates online. There are books as well. The best of them are from Hamza Tzortzis.
https://www.hamzatzortzis.com/
Please let us know if you need further clarification.
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