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    Proof For God In A Logically Semantic Presentation

    Posted by A Hasan on January 4, 2021 at 11:28 pm

    Could someone present the Quranic proof for God as understood by Ghamidi sahab (presented in his al hikmah lectures) in a logically semantic manner?

    Thanks

    Faisal Haroon replied 3 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Proof For God In A Logically Semantic Presentation

    Faisal Haroon updated 3 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
    Epistemology And Philosophy

  • Umer

    Moderator January 5, 2021 at 12:10 am

    I think it is already available in a very logical manner, unless you’re asking for something else:

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    • A Hasan

      Contributor January 5, 2021 at 12:13 am

      I’m looking for a format more in line of:

      P1 All philosophers are smart

      P2 John is a philosopher

      C1 John is smart

    • Ahsan

      Moderator January 5, 2021 at 12:21 am

      I think this analogy can be falsified. Whats ur point?

    • A Hasan

      Contributor January 5, 2021 at 12:22 am

      Please try and falsify it 😂

    • Ahsan

      Moderator January 5, 2021 at 2:05 am

      Iq test simply 😀
      Neglecting other aspects of trait can lead to wrong conclusions
      Consider this analogy
      P1 Humans need air to breath
      P2 Dogs need air to breath
      C1 Humans are dogs

    • A Hasan

      Contributor January 5, 2021 at 2:06 am

      I’m not talking about the premises being true. That is logically irrelevant. It’s about if it is deductively sound.

      The argument you gave is not true since humans are not dogs. And that was not one of your premises. If it was then it would be true.

    • Ahsan

      Moderator January 5, 2021 at 2:13 am

      I showed you example of fallacy of the Undistributed Middle
      https://www.thoughtco.com/undistributed-middle-fallacy-1692453

      First two premises are two, but wrong conclusion. Humans are dogs is the conclusion not premise.
      You are committing in my opinion similar fallacy.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor January 5, 2021 at 2:15 am

      My argument is a well known example of simple deduction. It is simply watertight. You cannot disprove it.

      You have introduced a hidden premise into your conclusion that humans are dogs. If that were in the premises, the argument would be deductively sound.

      Of course it would be factually incorrect just as mine is

    • Ahsan

      Moderator January 5, 2021 at 2:40 am

      Ok i understood ur point nw. Its not about false premises.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator January 5, 2021 at 12:17 pm

    Ahmad that exercise is left to the reader. I have high hopes from you so don’t you dare let me down! 😅

    Before you put in a lot of hard work though, I suggest that you pin down the purpose of such an exercise. What would you accomplish by syllogistically proving God? You would only be proving one a-priori concept (God) with another (logic). At least in my mind, it’s a zero sum game. From my perspective, the sheer capability of my mind to think logically proves an intelligent creator – God.

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