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Quran 9:31- What Does Taking As Lords Mean?
Sahih International: They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.
Does this mean Jews worshipped their rabbis?
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Quran 9:31- What Does Taking As Lords Mean?
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Can you install Ghamidi mobile app and read Islahi sb’s tafseer to see how he explained it?
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How do we establish that verse 28 is the only aspect of them making their rabbis lords?
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Install the mobile app (Ghamidi) and look for pragraphs.
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I’m not that good at reading Urdu so if you could help that would be appreciated
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Ok I’ve read it – wasn’t as hard as I thought- but that’s using a hadith to interpret the Quran
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28 is in a different paragraph.
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Ok- I don’t see how that helps?
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I dont see how 28 is connected to 31. Pls. explain “How do we establish that verse 28 is the only aspect of them making their rabbis lords?”
It is a different paragraph, not really connected like you asked – 2 cents
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Sorry- i think I wasn’t that clear. The Tafsir of 31 in which it says rabbis were taken as laws mentions the Hadith which says that they take what they want as haraam and halal- and that’s what verse 28 says. I’m asking how can we reduce them taking rabbis as lords to mere halal and haraam?
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Are you sure that is what 9:28 says?
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Sorry- this is embarrassing- it was 9:29
At-Taubah – 9:29
Arabic
قَٰتِلُواْ ٱلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤۡمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَلَا بِٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأٓخِرِ وَلَا يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَلَا يَدِينُونَ دِينَ ٱلۡحَقِّ مِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ ٱلۡكِتَٰبَ حَتَّىٰ يُعۡطُواْ ٱلۡجِزۡيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمۡ صَٰغِرُونَ
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It simply means that your priests (or Rabbis or Molvi sb.) cannot override God’s commandments. For example if Jesus (AS) says he has come to fulfill God’s commandments and nothing from the old testament should be abolished then that is God’s representative (or what God wants) not the later day priests telling you that all you got to do is believe in Jesus (AS) and you are good w/ salvation (two different things). In this example, following priest’s version over Jesus (AS)’s teaching is like following your own God (priest) but not the real God!
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Yes but taking them as lords seems to imply worship
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And that is what that Hadith explains also that it is not just who you bow down to for “religious rituals” but also who you take your religion from (God or Priest)!
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So why didn’t the Quran make it explicit that they take them as Lord because they abrogate God’s word with their fiqh?
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Besides jurisprudence priests changed the belief system also – like salvation or trinity (not limited to Fiqh)
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Ok great. Perfect. Now what evidence to we have from the Quran that would stop us from inferring that they worshipped them like Christians worship saints?
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What is the motivation to stop inferring that Jews worshipped their Rabbis differently than Christians?
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That’s what I’m asking. The general thought is that they didn’t and they use the Hadith quoted in the tafsir
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Denying Jesus (AS) should count.
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So just to tie it up. They DID also worship their rabbis? If this is what the Quran says then how do we view the Hadith in light of this which claims that they did not worship them – the one mentioned in the tafsir of ayah 31
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At-Taubah – 9:31
English – Ibn Kathir
اتَّخَذُواْ أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ اللّهِ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ
They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah, and the Messiah, son of Maryam.
Imam Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Jarir At-Tabari recorded a Hadith via several chains of narration, from Adi bin Hatim, may Allah be pleased with him, who became Christian during the time of Jahiliyyah. When the call of the Messenger of Allah reached his area, Adi ran away to Ash-Sham, and his sister and several of his people were captured.
The Messenger of Allah freed his sister and gave her gifts. So she went to her brother and encouraged him to become Muslim and to go to the Messenger of Allah. Adi, who was one of the chiefs of his people (the tribe of Tai’) and whose father, Hatim At-Ta’i, was known for his generosity, went to Al-Madinah. When the people announced his arrival, Adi went to the Messenger of Allah wearing a silver cross around his neck. The Messenger of Allah recited this Ayah;
اتَّخَذُواْ أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ اللّهِ
They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah.
Adi commented, “I said,
They did not worship them."'The Prophet said,بَلَى إِنَّهُمْ حَرَّمُوا عَلَيْهِمُ الْحَلَلَ وَأَحَلُّوا لَهُمُ الْحَرَامَ فَاتَّبَعُوهُمْ فَذَلِكَ عِبَادَتُهُمْ إِيَّاهُمYes they did. They (rabbis and monks) prohibited the allowed for them (Christians and Jews) and allowed the prohibited, and they obeyed them. This is how they worshipped them.The Messenger of Allah said to Adi,يَا عَدِيُّ مَا تَقُولُ O Adi what do you say?أَيُفِرُّكَ أَنْ يُقَالَ اللهُ أَكْبَرَ Did you run away (to Ash-Sham) so that 'Allahu Akbar' (Allah is the Great) is not pronounced?فَهَلْ تَعْلَمُ شَيْيًا أَكْبَرَ مِنَ الله Do you know of anything greater than Allah?مَا يُفِرُّك What made you run away?أَيُفِرُّكَ أَنْ يُقَالَ لَا إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللهُ Did you run away so thatLa ilaha illallah’ is not pronounced?فَهَلْ تَعْلَمُ مَنْ إِلهٌ إِلاَّ اللهُ
Do you know of any deity worthy of worship except Allah?
The Messenger invited Adi to embrace Islam, and he embraced Islam and pronounced the Testimony of Truth. The face of the Messenger of Allah beamed with pleasure and he said to Adi,
إِنَّ الْيَهُودَ مَغْضُوبٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَالنَّصَارَى ضَالُّون
Verily, the Jews have earned the anger (of Allah) and the Christians are misguided.
Hudhayfah bin Al-Yaman, Abdullah bin Abbas and several others said about the explanation of,
اتَّخَذُواْ أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ اللّهِ
(They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah…),
that the Christians and Jews obeyed their monks and rabbis in whatever they allowed or prohibited for them.
This is why Allah said,
وَمَا أُمِرُواْ إِلاَّ لِيَعْبُدُواْ إِلَـهًا وَاحِدًا
while they were commanded to worship none but One God,
Who, whatever He renders prohibited is the prohibited, whatever He allowed is the allowed, whatever He legislates, is to be the law followed, and whatever He decides is to be adhered to;
لااَّ إِلَـهَ إِلااَّ هُوَ سُبْحَانَهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ
None has the right to be worshipped but He. Hallowed be He above what they associate (with Him).
Meaning, exalted, sanctified, hallowed above partners, equals, aids, rivals or children, there is no deity or Lord worthy of worship except Him
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Both Quran and Hadith are saying the same thing. Worhsipping Rabbis here does not mean bowing down to Rabbis in rituals. Worship here means blindly accepting religion (both in jurisprudence and beliefs) from Rabbis/Priests. I gave you a few examples above to explain how Rabbis/Priests’ version can be different from what they “claim” to represent.
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What is the evidence that taking them as their lords doesn’t imply worship in the sense of Boeing down etc
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Jews are the evidence!
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Makes sense
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