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  • Quran 15:71 – Lut AS Offering His Daughters

    Faisal Haroon updated 3 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 21 Replies
  • Fatima

    Member January 19, 2021 at 4:27 am

    brother pehle request hai ke aap name sahi se quraan me deekhe lut a.s hai,or aap paighambar se aise tavaqqo kaise karsakty hai jabki vo khud ekhlaaq ka namoona hoty hai hame morality seekhane aaty hai,kehne ka matlab ye hai ki ye mere betiya hai tum inse nikah kyu nahi karty,aise burari me pary ho jo khuda ke azab ko dawat de raha hai.

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 5:31 am

    Sir ap ka jawab or Quran ka alfaz mukhtalif hain or saawal ka jawab jazbaat sa nai dia jata ap ka jawab alfaz qabool nai kar rahy

  • Fatima

    Member January 19, 2021 at 6:19 am

    quraan aor paighambar hame tamaam buraiyo se rokty hai na ki ek burai se roky or dusri me mubtila karde,quraan ke alfaz apne ander bht gahrai rakhty hai hame sirf alfazo ko le kar ghalat rasty par nahi jana chahiye behtar hai aap janab ghamidi sahab ka translation deekhe,isme jazbaat ki to koi baat hi nahi

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 6:32 am

    Ghamidi Saab ki translation ma b nikah ka lafz istemal nahi hua ha ap na ya khud sa as kar dia ?

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 6:34 am

    Jazbaat ki baat ya ha k q ka ma musalman hu iss liay khud sa in ko nai insaan man kar nikah ka lafz add kar dun … Beshaq Quran e pak koi or baat Bata raha ho

  • Fatima

    Member January 19, 2021 at 7:06 am

    mera manna hai ke kamazkam janab ghamidi sahab ko sunne waly ye nahi sochty kyunki ham musalman hai bas isliye sahi hai,ye baat to quraan ke bhi khilaaf hai,balki kaha ye gaya hai ki jisne zarra barabar bhi neiki ki hogi vo use deekhlega or jisne zarrabarabar bhi burai ki hogi vo use deekhlega.agar aapko lagta hai ke nikah ya koi aisa commetment jisse aurat aor mard bandh jaye ka zikr vaha nahi hai to aap hi bata de ke aap ko kya samajh ata hai.

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 7:15 am

    Wo hi puch raha aghar ghamidi Saab sa ya sawal puch lain plzzz.

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 7:17 am

    Un ki har week class hoti aghar ap poch lain

  • Fatima

    Member January 19, 2021 at 8:41 am

    ham unka itna ehtiram karty hai ke apna sawal nahi kar parahe ummed hai ke kabhi karsaky,aap ka sawal aap khud hi kare to behtar hai.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator January 19, 2021 at 9:22 am

    Kindly always provide ayah / hadith references if you seek response from the moderators. Please see point #4 in Ask Ghamidi code of conduct:

    https://ask.ghamidi.org/code-of-conduct/

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 11:17 am

    Surah 15 ayat 71

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 11:18 am

    Ap nai kar pa rahi to mujy Bata dain ma in sa kasy contact kar sakta..

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator January 19, 2021 at 11:46 am

    Please see this note of Islahi sahab from Taddabur-e-Quran reproduced by Ghamidi sahab in Al-Bayan:

    حضرت لوط کی طرف سے یہ اُن اوباشوں کے لیے کیا کوئی پیش کش تھی؟استاذ امام لکھتے ہیں:

    ’’۔۔۔یہ حضرت لوط کی طرف سے کوئی پیش کش نہیں تھی، بلکہ یہ اپنی قوم کے ضمیر کو جھنجھوڑنے کے لیے اُن کی آخری تدبیر تھی۔ اگراُ ن لوگوں کے اندر اخلاقی حس کی کوئی رمق بھی ہوتی تو وہ سوچ سکتے تھے کہ ایک یہ شخص ہے جو اپنے مہمانوں کی عزت بچانے کے لیے اپنی عزت تک خطرے میں ڈالنے کے لیے تیار ہے اور ایک ہم ہیں کہ اُس کی اور اُس کے مہمانوں کی عزت کے درپے ہیں۔ یہ بالکل اُسی طرح کی بات ہے، جس طرح ایک اعلیٰ کردار کا آدمی دوسرے کی جان یا آبرو بچانے کے لیے اپنی جان اور اپنے وقار کو خطرے میں ڈال دینے کے لیے تیار ہو جاتا ہے۔‘‘

    (تدبرقرآن۴/ ۳۷۰)​

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 11:51 am

    Faisal bahi parh Chuka hun tasali nai hui thi iss liay pucha tha …. Baat to phir b Sai nai ha aik gunnah sa bachny ka liay ya apny mehmano ko bachany ka liay ya baat dusry gunnah ki baat Koch Sai nai.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator January 19, 2021 at 11:57 am

    I think that you haven’t understood what’s being said there. What was said by Lut AS was not an offer for adultery with his daughters. It was only a last attempt to appeal to the conscience of his addressees. We use similar language style in our daily lives too when completely frustrated with others. A lot of verses of the Quran must be understood in the larger context of the message for them to make complete sense.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor February 24, 2021 at 7:22 pm

      Could you give an example of this usage in daily life?

    • Nadeem

      Member February 24, 2021 at 7:29 pm

      People when come to a girl’s house for engagement they normally say that “we came to ask for your daughter’s hand”

    • A Hasan

      Contributor February 24, 2021 at 7:46 pm

      That’s not what the Quran said and it does not have a tone of frustration to it

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator February 24, 2021 at 8:33 pm

      In anger sometimes we say things like “I can kill someone” or in embarrassment we say “I can die right now” or in frustration we say “go ahead and shoot me.” They’re all hyperboles and we use them very often in our everyday language.

  • Hakim Ali

    Member January 19, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    Roger

  • Usama khan

    Member February 24, 2021 at 7:45 pm

    The exegetes Ibn Kathir, Qurtubi and Tabari do not read ‘daughters’ to mean Lot’s literal daughters. They argue that since a prophet is like a father to his nation, Lot was directing the evildoers to turn away from their sins and engage in healthy relationships with the daughters of the nation, i.e. women in general..

    Tafsir Ibn Kathir”. Archived from the original on 30 November 2018.

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