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  • Why Non Active Ingredients Like Gelatin Is Haram

    Posted by Hasan Ansari on May 21, 2021 at 2:26 pm

    Why non active ingredients like gelatin , Bovine , others is haram if extracted from pig

    These non active ingredient are mostly used as binding agent in food and medicine, and not consumed as meat or source of nutrition

    Umer replied 2 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Why Non Active Ingredients Like Gelatin Is Haram

    Umer updated 2 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor May 28, 2021 at 10:57 am

    For a detailed discussion, please see the link below

    Discussion 46576

  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor May 28, 2021 at 11:02 am

    the shared link is to understand the issues and principles

  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor May 28, 2021 at 11:06 am
    • Mohammad Yaseen

      Contributor June 2, 2021 at 5:30 pm

      This is the other opinion that says gelatin doesn’t go through istihala. Shiekh Yasir Qazi is a chemical engineer by education.

    • Sarah

      Member July 13, 2021 at 5:44 am

      Ok, so Sheikh Yasir Qazi is making some wrong analysis here. Didn’t he say tanning purifies the leather? But the skin of the animal doesn’t really change it’s chemical properties at all or doesn’t stop being skin of a particular animal. Anyone can tell after tanning that this skin belongs to a cow, or a pig or a kangaroo.

      So to say that gelatine can be seen under a microscope and you can tell which animal it belongs to then shld invalidate the argument presented for leather tanning.

      Also, the gelatine we are usually concerned with isn’t the kind we produce at home. Ofcourse, that wld be haraam, coz it wouldn’t have gone through istihala. However, the gelatine produced in factories and made into capsules or dried powder goes thru a lot of chemical processes that can not be carried out in our kitchens.

      So i do believe the gelatine produced in factories does go through istihala

  • Mohammad Yaseen

    Contributor May 28, 2021 at 11:37 am

    As I see it!

    Active means that the ingredient produces an effect intended or unintended.

    Non-Active would mean that the ingredient doesn’t produce an intended effect, but it is needed for the active ingredient to be delivered or absorbed. The words are only used to differentiate the cause-and-effect relationship. The disease defines what ingredient is active against it and what is not.

    Both the ingredients are, however, ingested and become a part of our body. E.g. the active molecule (antihypertensive) will target certain molecules to cause an effect, and non-active gelatin will be digested as it is the source of calories/nutrition.

    Activity is not about food or calories but a pharmaceutical term.

    I hope this clarifies.

  • John Marston

    Member May 28, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    Look. There is a concept called Istislah which means that when there is a change in form or a change in essential properties by a partial or complete chemical change, then the foundational structure doesn’t remain the same and so the original ruling also changes. Using this, we can look at gelatin as having undergone a transformative process that changes its original pork material. Therefore the original ruling of it being haram no longer holds. Another example is vinegar, which is originally alcohol but undergoes synthesis to become vinegar. Vinegar isn’t haram and gelatin isn’t either.

  • Hasan Ansari

    Member June 2, 2021 at 4:04 pm

    Could you please explain why below ruling is NOT applied as in case of medicine quantity of gelatin or bovine is negligible

    The European Council for Fatwa issued a fatwa (Number 34, issued in Jumad al-Akhirah 1419 A.H.) stating that any impure substance added to pure food items does not make the food impure if either: (a) the substance underwent a complete chemical change (istihāla), or (b) was totally used up and dissolved in the food item, such that its traces became negligible (istihlāk).

  • Umer

    Moderator June 18, 2021 at 9:20 am
  • Umer

    Moderator December 22, 2021 at 2:22 pm

    For a detailed response by Hassan Sahab, please refer to the video below from 13:40 to 22:57

    https://youtu.be/6FQY8mlELtI?t=820

  • Sana

    Member January 6, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    Sorry to revive this thread, but is the takeaway that it is or is not haram per Hassan Sahab. I’m confused.

    • Umer

      Moderator January 6, 2022 at 10:23 pm

      As per Hassan Sahab’s understanding, since the chemical form of the end product changes, therefore, there’s no ‘hurmat‘ in consuming Gelatin.

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