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  • Protection Of Quran's Transmission From The Jinns

    Posted by Saira Qureshi on June 7, 2021 at 12:56 am

    Jinn were banned to reach high skies so they couldn’t steal any Quran verse. So it means they were banned for 23 years. Am I right?

    Muhammad Ali replied 3 months, 3 weeks ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Protection Of Quran's Transmission From The Jinns

    Muhammad Ali updated 3 months, 3 weeks ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator June 7, 2021 at 9:11 am

    We don’t know with certainty exactly how long, and it’s not even important. The point in Quran verses 72:8-9 is that the Quran was completely guarded as it was being revealed, so there’s no chance of any corruption within it’s transmission. This had to be clarified in response to the doubts that the Quresh were raising.

  • Fahad Iqbal

    Member June 7, 2021 at 10:30 am

    The Arch Angel Jibraeel, (The most powerful creation of Allah Talla) guards every Revelation from the Jinns while delivering to all the prophets. The Prophecy can be corrupted by Iblees & his shyateen if left unguarded which is what happened to the prophecies given by Fortune-tellers and Star worshippers during the time of the last Prophet. Similarly during ancient times and even today Hindu Mystics, Sufis, Gurus etc are influenced by these corrupted prophecies by Jinns and shayateen upon which they inherit esoteric(hidden/inner) meaning of Revelation.(Quran/Bible/BhagvadGita etc)

  • Muhammad Ali

    Member October 23, 2024 at 10:48 am

    Where does these prophecies come from?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 24, 2024 at 6:06 am

    The prophecies received by the mystics most likely come from Jinns.

  • Muhammad Ali

    Member October 24, 2024 at 11:48 am

    But why all these mystics came to the conclusion that there is something that exists and they call it “pure consciousness” .They all come to the conclusion of the existence of one God.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 25, 2024 at 5:21 am

    It is a logical conclusion that there is one God. There are mystics like Budha and others who do not believe in one living God.

  • Muhammad Ali

    Member October 25, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    But they believed in nature, like they used the term nature instead of God only, more like pantheism.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 25, 2024 at 11:46 pm

    All Mystics believe in pantheism. this shows that they all were misguided. When they try to peep into the unseen which has to say unseen, the jinns took their attention away and make them believe in the false notion of pantheism. It is because they do not confined to the revelation of God which tells otherwise.

  • Muhammad Ali

    Member October 26, 2024 at 4:34 am

    If Mysticism will only take towards pantheism.

    Why that inner world exist and open to the human beings and only few know about it?

    And why everyone who is involved in these activities can perform supernatural, and even he is able to see real dreams.

    Jinns cannot know the future.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 28, 2024 at 12:36 am

    Our experience tells us that the world is real and has its existence. Then we have the word of God which tells us that God is not the part of his creation. He holds those kafir, who make Jesus a part of God or God incarnate. God says that nothing yielded from Him, nor does He yield from anyone or anything.

    Now, there is a fantasy world of mystics that cannot be proven objectively. So we have no ground or reason to believe it or consider its probability.

    Performing extraordinary feats is another phenomenon. It is accomplished with certain mental powers the way humans make feats with one’s physical powers. It has nothing to do with pantheism.

    The true dreams are also experienced by non-muslims. The Quran tells that the king of Egypt and the two companions of the prophet Jesoph had true dreams, while they were polytheists

  • Muhammad Ali

    Member October 29, 2024 at 1:37 am

    Thanks sir.

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