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Hazrat Ameer Maviya (RA) A Revolter
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What is the explanation of this hadeeth which have proved now that this hadeeth is related to Hazrat Maviya. This is said that Maviya (RA) will be calling towards Hell -
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Hazrat Ameer Maviya (RA) A Revolter
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well I have listened complete video of Ghamidi sb
that is not explaining the hadeeth rather he is explaining about making a viewpoint of historical events
I want to ask what is meaning of this sentence that
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Did you read the thread that Umer sahab shared above and watched the video within?
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There was only one video in that thread with one paragraph text.
I watched the video along with text
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Okay great. As Ghamidi sahab explained in the video, and I also highlighted it in that thread that with the understanding of how history works, it really should not matter.
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Muawiyah ibn e Abi Sufyaan, Amr ibn Al-Aas and their Allies revolted against the Khilafat of Ali ibn e Abi Talib in the same way Muhammad ibn e Abi Bakr, Malik Al-Ashtar and their Allies revolted against the Khilafat of Usman ibn e Affan. There is no doubt that indeed both groups were Rebellious against a legitimate Government and succeeded in overthrowing it at the cost of hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslim lives. Anarchy and bloodshed was used to achieve political goals. Though the revolt of the Syrian Governor Muawiyah was a reaction against the violent overthrow of Govt and assassination of Caliph Usman which caused anarchy, rape and looting in the Prophetic City of Medina. Where his relative and cousin Caliph Usman preferred to get murdered by Rebels instead of raising swords to shed the blood of Muslims in the City of Medina.
in hindsight, It was a personal war for Power and Revenge among two powerful Tribes of Arabia namely Banu Hashim & Banu Ummaiya in which innocent companions like Ammar ibn Yasir fell prey to the hostilities of War.
The Prophetic hadith is explaining the attitude of Ammar during the War of Siffeen. Indeed Muawiyaah’s Army was calling Ammar to broke away his principled loyalty and allegiance to Ali ibn e abi talib. But Ammar refused this offer based on his principled stance and refused to betray Ali for attraction of wealth and power belonging to Syrian Governor. The Prophecy was fulfilled and Ammar indeed was successful in his trial and tribulations during times of Fitna.
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Ahadith are subject to interpretation. Historical events cannot be judged with a single narration.
The actual situation was, the rebels, assassins who killed Usman, the 3rd Caliph, chose Ali Ibn Talib their caliph, and forced the Madinites to give their allegiance to Ali. However, most of the Madinites willingly elected him to be their caliph.
However, these rebels became the army of Ali and Ali appointed their leaders his ministers in his cabinet, he made them governors and chief commander of his army (Malik Ibn Haris Al-Ashtar). Ali himself admitted that he had to follow their instructions and that they did not obey him. However, he very much admired Malik and Muhammad bin Abi Bakr.
Watching rebels ruling the seat of Khilafah was not acceptable to most of the Sahab.
A number of Sahaba were not in Madina, they were in Makkah for Hajj at that time. A great number of Sahab did not give their allegiance to Ali, including Muawiah, so he and other companions cannot be considered “revolting” against Ali or “rebels”. Ali’s allegiance could never complete.
Moreover, no one revolted against Ali, in fact. All their demands was to punish the assassins of Usaman and if he found himself weak to do so, hand them over to Muawiah, who was the legitimated heir to take Qasas as per Shariah. But Ali refused both options for excuses he is too weak to do so.
secondly, no one attacked Ali or Madinah the seat of claiphate. Ali himself initiated both the battles of camel and Siffin.
in this scenario, one thing is beyond question, that the all the rebels were under the flag of Ali.
secondly, we find that Muawiah when became the unanimous caliph after Hasan ibn Ali handed over caliphate to him, his span of regime, which lasted around 20 years, is considered the best of Muslims history. He did not call Muslims to the doors of the Hell, as the hadith says, instead, it was a time of great peace, prosperity and progress of Islamic sciences. All the companions paid their allegiance to him and all were happy with him.
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السلام عليكم
Irfan Bhai, usually people have been biased towards Ali رضي الله عنه without pondering over the whole event because of his propinquity with the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. Can you recommend a good book on the events which ensued during the caliphate of Usman رضي الله عنه and Ali رضي الله عنه which led to these unfortunate events? A book which inquires into this.
This post has gotten old, so I am also making a new post for this question. Please reply to whichever you find first.
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Most of early Islamic histories and Hadith collections were written during the Abbasid period. The Umayyads are generally portrayed very negatively in these historical records. I’m not saying that all this is a lie but a lot of it is also propaganda.
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