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  • Making Up Worship Rituals

  • Ahsan

    Moderator June 28, 2021 at 11:32 pm

    Kindly watch following video from 31:00 onwards. Its partly give answer to your query
    https://youtu.be/0n9_TPUzU64?t=1925

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator June 29, 2021 at 12:13 am

    Please clarify your question with an objective example.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor June 29, 2021 at 5:00 am

      Let’s say I want to do sufi dhikr- the circle one that they do. Is that haraam?

      Al-Hadid – 57:27

      Arabic

      ثُمَّ قَفَّيۡنَا عَلَىٰٓ ءَاثَٰرِهِم بِرُسُلِنَا وَقَفَّيۡنَا بِعِيسَى ٱبۡنِ مَرۡيَمَ وَءَاتَيۡنَٰهُ ٱلۡإِنجِيلَ وَجَعَلۡنَا فِى قُلُوبِ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّبَعُوهُ رَأۡفَةً وَرَحۡمَةً وَرَهۡبَانِيَّةً ٱبۡتَدَعُوهَا مَا كَتَبۡنَٰهَا عَلَيۡهِمۡ إِلَّا ٱبۡتِغَآءَ رِضۡوَٰنِ ٱللَّهِ فَمَا رَعَوۡهَا حَقَّ رِعَايَتِهَاۖ فَـَٔاتَيۡنَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ مِنۡهُمۡ أَجۡرَهُمْۖ وَكَثِيرٌ مِّنۡهُمۡ فَٰسِقُونَ

      Here the Quran talks about monasticism and it’s really not even a negative light in my opinion. It literally says that they got their payment for it and that it was good willed. Unless we’re going to say they didn’t know they were doing a bidah? But it seems they did because the Quran says they did it seeking the pleasure of Allah

    • Faisal Haroon

      Moderator June 30, 2021 at 9:21 am

      If any such ritual is undertaken at an individual level, there’s nothing objectionable in it as long as it has no shirk or another immoral aspect. However, if someone presents such a practice as a part of religion, then it is considered an innovation. As far as I know, learned sufis do not consider the whirling ritual as an act of worship ordained by God. It is considered a customary meditation practice said to have originated in the time of Rumi.

    • A Hasan

      Contributor June 30, 2021 at 9:27 am

      https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdaKx9fj/..
      https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdaKbNqx/
      ..https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdaK7Aw3/
      ..The Sufi stuff can be understood and it’s not weird. But if the lease is given then videos such as the above (which have been circulating recently) would be classed as ok. Isn’t that a bit weird don’t you think? Would the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم allow this or the Sufi stuff?

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