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  • Uncertainty Principle Of The Quantum Mechanics

    Posted by Ayaan Sabir Abbasi on August 18, 2021 at 5:40 am

    The uncertainty principle of Quantum Mechanics states that the momentum and position of a particle cannot both be precisely determined at the same time. This results in a number of probabilities about the history (and beginning) of the particle. Because the universe is made of particles, this results in the theory that the universe has no exact beginning of the universe. My question was that doesn’t it stand parallel to the Islamic view on the beginning of the universe. And doesn’t it limit the authority of a creator on how He may have started the universe?

    Ayaan Sabir Abbasi replied 3 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Uncertainty Principle Of The Quantum Mechanics

  • Zubair Usmani

    Member August 18, 2021 at 6:46 am

    Absolutely true, if we can determine then someway undermining the authority of a creator; Unable to determine does not mean it does not exist precisely!

    • Ayaan Sabir Abbasi

      Member August 19, 2021 at 3:33 am

      Sir, if you don’t mind, I would like to tell you something. What you said is scientifically incorrect because of interference between particles. In quantum mechanics, particles do not have an exact shape, because all particles also behave like waves and vice versa. That is, as we know that waves don’t have a specific position (like you can’t say the light is located at Dallas, Texas, can you?), right. And because particles sometimes behave like waves, there IS no specific position. You can’t say that it is just our inability to measure. You can also understand this by the “Two-Slit Experiment”. Here’s a video for it:

      https://youtu.be/A9tKncAdlHQ

      https://youtu.be/Iuv6hY6zsd0

  • Umer

    Moderator August 18, 2021 at 7:26 am

    How matter was created, how life in that matter came into being and how it became conscious; these are the three questions that science is not even close answering them. Quantum mechanics relate to the behavior of matter, it doesn’t tell us how matter was created. Although it is an ongoing field of study but nothing concrete has come out of it yet as far as origin of universe is concerned. And theories should be considered theories only, in order to challenge the whole foundation of religion, something concrete needs to be presented. You may find the following video insightful:

    https://youtu.be/nMVhMFyVY9E

    • Ayaan Sabir Abbasi

      Member August 19, 2021 at 3:39 am

      No doubt about that. However, science can tell us about the nature of particles very accurately. My question is not regarding what you are seeing. That’s different.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator August 18, 2021 at 7:54 am

    In addition to what Umer sahab shared above, I’m not even sure what you’re referring to as the Islamic theory of the beginning of the universe, and how it contradicts any conclusion drawn from the uncertainty principle. If anything, it humbles us in that even in the physical world there’s still so much that we can’t determine purely through science and the physical laws. Besides, laws do not come out of thin air – they’re discovered by observing patterns in the the functioning of the matter the way it is designed to function by the Creator.

  • Faraz Siddiqui

    Member August 18, 2021 at 8:58 am

    Most religions and spiritual tradition have used the uncertainty principle to prove there claims.

    Particles act in quantum mechanics aren’t the same as atoms or more complex, molecules, moving. The more complex a structure get the more stable it becomes and hence can not follow uncertainty principle.

    For universe to act like wave-particle, we have to assume that universe itself is a particle! That’s no small assumption, we can not imagine how big is observable universe, every day light from more distant stars is reaching us and everyday we know universe is bigger than we though.

    I believe that QM shouldn’t be use to understand any religious idea because for the simple reason we do not know what QM is, there’s not a single equation written about QM theories, string theory, M theory.

  • muhammad saad

    Member August 18, 2021 at 10:03 am

    before edin Hubble people believe that universe is static even Einstein has same believe but when Hubble discover universe is expanding the it is obvious in the past the galaxies are above each other and there will be no mater ,no energy in first if there must be a cause which give rise to this universe

    link of Stephen hocking video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI1ZBUzRgcs

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