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Sahih Bukhari 5093 – Women And Evil Omen / Bad Luck
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Abdullah binUmar:
Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) said, “Evil omen is in the women, the house and the horse.’Ref: Sahih Al Bukhari 5093I have a simple question! Is this sahih hadith and if yes can you please tell me about its background or context! Thanks 🙂
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Sahih Bukhari 5093 – Women And Evil Omen / Bad Luck
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Salam…not a moderator or scholar…..I found a video of DrShehzad Saleem(translator of Ghamidi sahab’s meezan),
Sorry for jumping in the discussion though. I hope me answering doesnt cause mods to not answer.
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Ali thank you for sharing the video. Contributions from non-moderators are very welcome.
Zayf the video shared by Ali should answer your concern. The key point to understand is that hadith narrations are not supposed to be understood in isolation. Since many of them do not relate the proper context, they must be understood in the light of the Quran as well as other narrations on the same topic.
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Can i get the reference of the last part of the hadith that is missing which states about Hazrat Aisha’a clearification?
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Salam ,
btw Faisal sahab, thnks for clarifying that our contribs are welcome….i had been hesitant earlier in contributing.btw Zayf sahab ,I found a salafi opinion here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfZS3KNL214
(I’ve already read salafi islamqainfo too)
. Although imvho according to my deficient understanding, their salafi way of understanding hadeeth is different from ghamidi sahab. It appears as soon as there is a saheeh label and that too for more than one narration, they would go onto say it must be that content of all narrations with saheeh label is true. Thus it seems as a princpal they would forcefully reconcile all narrations. Rather than thinking this part of conversation may have been missed out from that particular narration etc.I think the “if” part in bukhari 5094 strenghtens drshehzad’s narrative. I do not know drshehzad’s source though.
In general it appears believing in (superstitions/bad omens) are disliked in our deen so this perhaps also strengthens drshehzad’s narrative.To be very honest reading hadeeth narrations independently(not in light of other sources) have caused me doubts as well. I think it is because we have lots of material, and narrators might have misunderstood etc.
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Thanks
But the hadith is not like “if it would have existed” it clearly states “If there is evil omen in anything, it is in the house, the woman and the horse.” Bukhari 5094
It’s a clear statement that Prophet Muḥammad ﷺ made there. Yes this is matter of “if” but it seems more like “whenever there is bad omen then it must he in woman, house and the horse”
That’s my understanding of this Hadith and i would still ask @faisalharoon sir to give the source of full hadith it would definitely clear all doubts.
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Salam
btw I found the hadeeth
http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/query.aspx?id=734
sunnah.com hasnt completed the uploading of musnad ahmad. The’ve uploaded only 4% of the whole book.
Musnad of Ahmad ibn Hanbal, 6/246
This number was written by some guy who wrote a pdf, and also written in another salafi website….Not mentioning their names, I mean lol I mean I’m not in the mood of solving any more confusing problems. 🙂
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Musnad Ahmad no. 25557
عن أَبِى حَسَّانَ الأَعْرَجِ ان رَجُلَيْنِ دَخَلاَ على عَائِشَةَ فَقَالاَ ان أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ يحدث ان نبي اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم كان يقول إنما الطِّيَرَةُ في الْمَرْأَةِ وَالدَّابَّةِ وَالدَّارِ قال فَطَارَتْ شِقَّةٌ منها في السَّمَاءِ وَشِقَّةٌ في الأَرْضِ فقالت والذي أَنْزَلَ الْقُرْآنَ على أَبِى الْقَاسِمِ ما هَكَذَا كان يقول وَلَكِنَّ نبي اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم كان يقول كان أَهْلُ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ يَقُولُونَ الطِّيَرَةُ في الْمَرْأَةِ وَالدَّارِ وَالدَّابَّةِ
Abū Hassān reports that two people came to ’A’ishah and said to her that Abū Hurayrah narrates that the Prophet used to say that bad luck is to be found only in women, horses and houses. At this, ‘A’ishah became very angry and said: “By the God who revealed the Qur’ān to the Prophet, the Prophet never said this; what he did say was that the People of the jāhilliyyah say that bad luck is found in a woman and in a house and in an animal.”
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