Different School Of Thoughts As To When Does Isha Time End

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Islamic Sharia

Different School Of Thoughts As To When Does Isha Time End

Posted by Nadeem on June 16, 2022 at 6:13 pm

There are two schools of thought. One says Isha time is until Fajar. The other, including Ghamidi Sahib, say that Isha time is until mid night.

If Isha time is until midnight…

1. How is midnight defined in Islam; especially when there were no clocks in olden times. Wouldn’t midnight change by the length of the day and night?

2. If Isha time is until midnight, why Witars are allowed with Isha prayer, but preferably before Fajar prayer?

Umer replied 2 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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Different School Of Thoughts As To When Does Isha Time End

Umer updated 2 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
Islamic Sharia
Nadeem
Member June 16, 2022 at 6:22 pm

Sorry I misspelled the title completely and forgot to re-read before posting 🙁
Umer
Moderator June 17, 2022 at 7:32 am

Maybe Dr. Irfan Shahzad Sahab ( @Irfan76 ) can shed some light on this matter.
Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar June 20, 2022 at 4:33 am

I have no research on this topic. I may get to you later IA.
Nadeem
Member July 13, 2022 at 8:13 am

@Irfan76 . Assalam-o-Alaikam. Just posting as a reminder to research an answer to my questions.
- Md Saifuddin
  Member July 13, 2022 at 10:14 pm
  
  For the second question regarding Witr, I think Ghamidi suggests witr to be another name for Tahajjud. So, its better to pray before fajr. Please refer to the video :
  
  https://youtu.be/iBpPA2fl8UA
- Dr. Irfan Shahzad
  Scholar July 15, 2022 at 4:41 am
  
  Well, Ghamidi sahib says, that name of the prayers are the names of the times. So we need to know through language what time these refers. Isha, refers to first half early part of the night, not the whole night. So the matter is decided here. Now we have a verse which mentions it is the early part of night.
  
  وَ اَقِمِ الصَّلٰوۃَ طَرَفَیِ النَّہَارِ وَ زُلَفًا مِّنَ الَّیۡلِ
  
  And Listen! [O Prophet! To remain steadfast in this path,] be diligent in the prayer in both parts of the day and in the early part of the night also (11:114)
Nadeem
Member July 17, 2022 at 1:01 pm

Thanks for the answer. There are still some items to consider or remain to be answered.

1. How in olden times midnight was determined?

2. Did the prayer names come first or the prayer names were named after the words in Arabic language that already existed.

3. What is the argument of those scholars who say Isha time is until start of fajar. How is their argument weaker?
Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar July 18, 2022 at 12:23 am

1. It was there guess of course.

2. When God revealed prayers, He named them after the name of the times to let people learn their timings.

3. This needs study.
Umer
Moderator August 4, 2022 at 1:46 am

For comments of Ghamidi Sahab, please refer to the video below from 30:39 to 33:07

https://youtu.be/jg1wi6prZQk?t=1839