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Alcohol In Daily Life Things
Hello,
My question is that, from my understanding Khamr is anything that intoxicates. Alcohol is Khamr. But we see in scientific research that our daily life items contain minute amounts of ethyl alcohol (the compound which causes intoxication) you can see below.
white wine vinegar – up to 2.64g per litre
apple juice – up to 0.66g per litre (but most brands they tested were around 0.2g per litre)
orange juice – up to 0.73g per litre
grape juice – up to 0.86g per litre
Very ripe bananas. Bananas make alcohol as it ripens
And bread where yeast was used like burger, pizza and others.
All of them contain some minuscule amount of alcohol.
Some scholars say that amount of minute amount of alcohol in a thing is halal because that thing as a whole (eg. Ripe banana, or yeast bread) does not cause intoxication even if stomach is filled layer to layer with it, hence it is not Khamr, and they mention this hadith
Sunan Ibn Majah 3392
It was narrated from ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.”
But the question is, can’t it be said that this thing as a whole is not Khamr (because it doesn’t cause intoxication) but it contains a compound ‘Ethyl Alcohol’ which could cause intoxication (if extracted out and drunk separately) then wouldn’t it fall into Khamr (anything that intoxicates). In other words, that thing (eg ripe browny banana) is not Khamr but it contains a compound which is a Khamr if extracted and drunken separately. Thank you
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Alcohol In Daily Life Things
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Case A= If alcohol change its form there is no problem.
Case B= If its not intentional then ruling is if that product can induce intoxication in large quantities then it is prohibited.Case C= All intentional mixing is prohibited
Refer to video
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And what if alcohol is produced because of yeast bread. While the yeast was added intentionally to produce gas that would make the bread rise etc. And so if the ethyl alcohol is present in as a compound that was naturally made then wouldn’t it be said. For example like the ripe banana is not a Khamr but it has a compound ethyl alcohol(in minuscule quantity produced by the natural decomposition by bacteria) which is khamr, if the alcohol is extracted and separated and put into a glass.
Or the alcohol in the banana wouldn’t be called a Khamr unless it is separated and extracted into a new form of concentrate of alcohol, which will then be called a Khamr. Because only in that concentrate form does it produce an intoxication effect
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Alcohol is byproduct not an actual aim hence no issue.
In such cases, if a product containing alcohol can cause intoxication in large quantity then it is prohibited. see ghamidi sb comment in above video
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