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Importance Of Sadd-E-Zariya Based Advice Of A Scholar?
Remember when Ghamidi Sahab gave his opinion on the shirk element in PUBG game. I was wondering that since most people might not take his advice seriously, is it considered a sin in eyes of Allah to ignore the sad-e-zariya based advice that a scholar may give?
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Importance Of Sadd-E-Zariya Based Advice Of A Scholar?
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If one ignores this advice, one may have to be accountable for one’s negligence.
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@Irfan76 sir does it mean that if someone knowing the risk involved, doesn’t listen to the advice of scholar. but didn’t fall into the end stage sin (which the scholar was trying to prevent from). will this person still be sinful for minor sin for not doing what the scholar told him (this directive is neither in Quran nor in Sunnah, but a mere advice of scholar for prevention)?
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The principle has been told already that if the actual or major is not committed the initial steps are neglibile sins and when one commits the actual or major sin, the initial steps towards are sin are counted too in the sin.
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@Irfan76 sir so if he doesn’t listen to advice of scholar of not to do some initial action ‘not to go to a friend’s house’ (and doing that action has not been prohibited by Allah, but just a mere advice of scholar). and he also understands that the scholar is right to some extent that this thing does has potential to lead to major sin. will it be okay for him to keep on violating this advice (as this thing is not prohibited by Allah). I mean he thinks of keep on doing that thing but also try to keep himself away from that end stage sin (fearing which the scholar said not to do the former action). is it okay?
I’m asking this because in contrast to this if someone keeps on deliberately violate the minor sin of looking at a woman. he might be doing Istikbar (because he’s violating a directive of Allah). but knowingly avoiding what the scholar told and keep on doing it, won’t be a sin and won’t be Istikbar, am I Right?
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Right
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@Irfan76 sir I understand that you say that if something has a significant potential to lead to a major sin, if it is not prohibited by Allah or his messenger. then doing this action in itself would not be sin (as in example of a man going to house of his alcoholic friend, despite knowing he can get tempted or pressurized to drink).
but here in this video Ghamidi Sahab answered this that such a thing may not be sinful under not abiding by directive of Allah or his messenger. but such a thing can be sinful under the heading of “Nafs ke Saath Khayaanat” as was mentioned in Quran when Muslims did a thing which they thought was sinful (in reality it was not). sir then how to look into this matter?
Because a person with a deep and fine details thinking mind, will see everything in falling under such things. he would inevitably go closer and closer to rahbaniyat as he’ll see such actions as high potential paving a way for sin, so he’ll definitely conclude these mundane actions sinful too (because of the principle) and he wouldn’t want to consistently do these actions fearing that if he falls under Istikbar while constantly doing those mundane acts. can you please explain sir
https://youtu.be/M2dnHGLb5qM?si=rfd9EUmtmVs-6sN7
from 17:00 onwards
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This is about an act, that the companions thought was prohibited, but they did it. It is not about a thing of sad e Zarya.
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@Irfan76 then sir why did Ghamidi Sahab said such thing?
I understand your point. it is strong, in the sense that then these things would lead to rahbaniyat.
because a person with deep mathematical mind can easily provide evidence of many mundane things being minor sin (hence constantly doing then deliberately as something more serious)
just as an example. Backbiting is Haram. backbiting usually occurs when a person gets swayed in emotions regarding some third person and starts complaining about them with someone else.
A person knows that if I marry this girl, I’ll be having increased relationships (his father and mother and relatives, now become my relatives) and then they’ll often invite me for meet ups, which means many many instances of meetings and gatherings throughout the lifetime with them are inevitable (let’s say, for sake of argument, 1000 meetings). Now he knows that backbiting only happens when a person is in company of another person. and during that company if he starts feeling animosity for some third person. during that feelings of animosity there’s high chance that if he loses control he’ll do backbiting.
So now he thinks in probability that if it was just one meeting we can say that he might not fall into backbiting, he can maybe confidently say he won’t fall in it. but now it’s 1000+ meetings, he cant confidently say that in all 1000+ of meetings, he’ll be able to save himself from temptation of backbiting everytime. There’s very high risk that in those 1000+ meetings, he might do this sin at least once.
So he can simply conclude
Marrying this girl –> 1000+ meetings with her family (inevitably) —> chance of falling into backbite at least once in that span of all these meetings is very high….
he might say that marrying this girl is minor sin for me. and now if I deliberately try to make efforts ro marry this girl, it will get more and more serious sin.
Now this was just example of backbiting, there’s many many other examples of other things too in the same intensity. if we make everything minor sin. then there’s inevitably no choice left then rehbaniyat
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We are not supposed to avoid the test we are into.
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@Irfan76 sir can you please tell me that why did Ghamidi sahab used the notion of “Nafs ke Saath Khayaanat” to say that it would be sin?
I couldn’t understand and grasp what was he trying to say, can you please help me sir?
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It is about when a person assume that something is a requirement of deen or morality but he denies it.
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@Irfan76 sir what would be the example of a person that would fall under this second category that Ghamidi Sahab mentioned, in the video,?
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That he thinks something is wrong and he still do it.
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@Irfan76 you mean he thinks that it’s sin to do an act but still does it, right?
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yes
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@Irfan76 so in this video, what Ghamidi sahab meant was that…
as regarding Zina Allah has made lustful gaze and touch unlawful. these are unlawful as they come under the command of [Do not approach Zina…] that a person is required not to go even close to Zina.
if for example in future something new comes up regarding which there is no mention in Quran (as in case of lustful gaze etc), but this thing does fall under category of [Do not go near Zina]. so after an advice of scholar, that person understands that this act is sin to do, as it falls under the violation of command of not to go near Zina. so here if him despite feeling that it’s sin (not just a mere aversion of tabiyat and dill) but knowing that it’s a sin to do such thing, despite this he violates it, then it would be “Nafs ki Khayaanat”, right?
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yes.
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gazing at women or touching in itself is inappropriate but they were not the actual sins of Zina, therefore they remain minor sins. On the hand,, normal acts like meeting someone or talking that may lead to backbiting or some higher sins, is in itself appropriate and normal things. They are not counted as Sad e Zayra to avoid some probable sins. If one inclinds to avoid them too it is rehbaniyat.
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@Irfan76 and sir even if those chances of backbiting and higher sins are very likely in a specific setting, then still, as meeting someone is not a sin declared by Allah then it will not incur sin when it is done, even dispite high probability of falling in backbiting or any other higher sin. the punishment or we can say sin would only happen if backbiting itself happens, right sir?
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Right.
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