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Pleasing People And Ayah 62 Of Surah Tawbah
Hello there, Assalaam u alaykum
My question is that this verse of surah tawbah verse 62:
“They swear by Allah to you ˹believers˺ in order to please you, while it is the pleasure of Allah and His Messenger they should seek, if they are ˹true˺ believers.”
The way it is said that the pleasure of Allah and his messenger is more rightful and that is what should be sought if they are true Muslims.
So the way this Ayah condemns this behavior only limited to a special case and circumstances? like the hypocrites were swearing by Allah and professing their faith and loyalty in religion, just to please Muslims. But in reality only the pleasure of Allah should be sought through religion and religious commitment. Only He should be pleased though Islamic Faith.
And this ayah does not condemn or warn in all general meaning that Allah should only be pleased if someone is a true Muslim, right?
and it’s not like an exclusive unique right of Allah like worship (that cannot be done for someone else), and it’s permissible to please other people as well through permissible means, am i right??
(Just as a man wants to please his friend and make him love him, by seeing gifts or doing something for him. And he does not do this for Allah’s indirect pleasure but to only generally please that friend and make his love in his heart grow)
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Pleasing People And Ayah 62 Of Surah Tawbah
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As told earlier many a time, that anything or anyone whose pleasure becomes rival to the pleasure of God is shirk, otherwise not.
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@Irfan76 okay sir i mean i was just talking on the context of this ayah, but even if we take closer look. According to my understanding, the Ayah says that “it’s more rightful” or “it’s more of a right” when the word أَحَقُّ is used, which when i checked it translates into the words “more right”. So i understand that here in this ayah it’s talking about the behavior of Muslims that they should give more precedence to pleasure of Allah instead of people which means in and of itself the pleasure of people is not condemned but the priority and top of the list should be the pleasure of Allah. Is my understanding about how this ayah is saying right, sir?
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Not necessarily.
When one is proved to be more deserving it leaves no room for others. For example there is a single position the more deserving one leaves no room for others to contest.
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@Irfan76 sir so if someone concludes from this ayah that this ayah clearly states that only Allah’s pleasure should be sought and no other’s pleasure should be sought, in a whole generality. So how and with what evidences would we tell him that it’s okay to please others with permissible things (even if that act of pleasing the person is not done in order to please Allah, i e conducive)
Secondly, Sir also there’s this hadith
Mu’awiyah ibn Haydah reported: I said, “O Prophet of Allah, what can we cover or uncover of our nakedness?” The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Cover your nakedness, except from your wife or those in the custody of your right hand.” Mu’awiyah said, “O Messenger of Allah, what about when some people are with others?” The Prophet said, “If you are able to keep anyone from seeing it, do not let them see it.” Mu’awiyah said, “O Prophet of Allah, what about when one of us is alone?” The Prophet said, “Allah is more worthy of your modesty than people.”
مَا مَلَكَتْ يَمِينُكَ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِذَا كَانَ الْقَوْمُ بَعْضُهُمْ فِي بَعْضٍ قَالَ إِنْ اسْتَطَعْتَ أَنْ لَا يَرَاهَا أَحَدٌ فَلَا يَرَاهَا قَالَ قُلْتُ يَا نَبِيَّ اللَّهِ إِذَا كَانَ أَحَدُنَا خَالِيًا قَالَ فَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ يُسْتَحْيَا مِنْهُ مِنْ النَّاسِ
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2794
Sir here also we see that that word أَحَقُّ is used when mentioning shyness Infront of Allah, but we also know that it’s not prohibited if someone becomes shy Infront of people. And the whole hadith clears it like first it was asked about people then it was asked about being alone, upon which such words were said.
So sir my question is that how would we know that أَحَقُّ is used in what sense in the ayah. And if someone deduces that no one is to be pleased other than Allah at all (in all situations, even if one thinks to please someone by giving him gifts), so even this type of pleasing is not allowed by the concept of this ayah, so how will we tell them that it’s okay to please people by permissible things even if the it’s not done in a conducive manner to please Allah, and merely for pleasing people. And what evidences would we give him from within this Ayah itself that clearly gives a ‘Qataee Daleel’ that it’s not like how you understood. Can you clarify this aspect sir?
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@Irfan76 as i actually did see something like this that only Allah should be pleased, and someone else’s pleasure is not to be done, from an article. So i don’t know if they were speaking generally or with context of pleasure of people which is rival to Allah. Can you please clarify sir that what evidences from within the ayahs clear it that it’s not in generality
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This is ultimately what has to be decided by a conscious and conscientious mind, that if seeking pleasure other than God is not rival to God and conducive to His pleasaure.
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@Irfan76 noo sir i guess I could not clear my point. I am not talking about in the point of view of religion right now. I am just saying that intrinsically seeking pleasure as an act , can it be done for pleasing others too beside Allah? I’m not saying pleasing them by doing deeds of religion. I’m saying general worldly deeds. Like giving a gift to someone to earn their pleasure and love for us, is it okay to seek pleasure of people, without intending this pleasure of them as conducive to Allah’s pleasure? Is it okay of it’s done like this? As this ayah, sort of says that Allah’s pleasure is أَحَقُّ that it should be sought. So i was saying that “the act of pleasing” in and of itself only the أَحَقُّ of Allah? Or it can be done for others as well through worldly deeds without intending Allah’s pleasure through it.
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@Irfan76 i mean i became confused after this ayah and after that article that what if this “act of pleasing someone” is only to be done for Allah only and no other just like things of worship. I mean worship cannot be done of anyone else even if someone worships Allah 23 hours a day and 1 minute worship of someone else, this is still condemnable. But can a true momin earn pleasure of others through permissible worldly things as well, to earn someone’s pleasure and love in heart? (And that pleasure of people sought by worldly deeds like giving a gift to someone, without doing it to seek Allah’s pleasure. I mean one thing is someone gives another person a gift so that when that person becomes happy, Allah will be happy with him. But other case is someone just giving a gift to someone to just please that person, just as a fıtratı action, simply to please the person, so that too would be fine?)
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Of course, it is permissible, rather desirable to seek others’ pleasure by doing things that we do not do for Allah and religion. As told earlier, the expression is understood in its context. Whenever God’s pleasure is emphasized it is in the matters related to God.
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@Irfan76 okay sir, sir can you please explain me a little about this ayah that is it talking about that specific situation of munafiq?
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yes, you can consult Al Bayan for the explanation.
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@Irfan76 yes sir, so my understanding is right that it’s s commentary on them they proclaim their faith just to please Muslims
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@Irfan76 and sir one more thing please. If someone for suppose from this ayah says that here it is told that no one is to be pleased except Allah, either directly or indirectly as conducive, only Allah is to be ultimately pleased. and no way of pleasing people is left permissible (even by totally worldly ways like giving someone a gift etc). So how would we refute such claims with evidences from within and outside these ayahs of Quran.
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It is he, who has to prove his claim.
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