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Is Hell Permanent?
Is jahanam permanent?
According to Javed ghamidi, Allah promises for people of heaven to remain there for eternity (Surah hud 106-108) but there is no such promise for the people of hell. Many draw conclusion from this that the hell may not be there permanently.
But according to other scholars, they say hell is also eternal and people will stay there for ever as mentioned on multiple occasion in Quran.
What is the right conclusion here? I want to clear this confusion.
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Is Hell Permanent?
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Here’s a very heterodox answer which you don’t need to accept. But it’s also one of the possibilities
Take these two Quranic verses :
“Allah is He Who originates creation and then repeats it.” (30:11)
“Everything will perish save His Face.To Him belongs the command. And to Him shall all of you return” (28:88)
We can take the verse you quoted into consideration as well
“As for those bound for misery, they will be in the Fire, where they will be sighing and gasping,staying there forever, as long as the heavens and the earth will endure, except what your Lord wills. Surely your Lord does what He intends.”
“And as for those destined to joy, they will be in Paradise, staying there forever, as long as the heavens and the earth will endure, except what your Lord wills—a ˹generous˺ giving, without end.” (Surah Hud 106-108)
You focused on the different ways both preceding verses end but the highlighted part is common to both of them. The existence of paradise and hell is conditioned on the existence of the heavens and the earth. Clearly, they both belong to the realm of creation. The verse 28:88 tells us that everything will perish save God [1] . This implies the heavens and the earth will also perish. In consequence, paradise and hell will also eventually vanish.
What then ? The verse 30:11 tells us God will repeat the entire creation. Whether this repetition will be exactly the same in content or only in form is left to God. As for the rewards in paradise being ever-lasting. An experience can be ever lasting intensively or extensively. From my perspective, the Quran refers to an intensive experience that can be characterized as eternal. It doesn’t imply it would not come to an end in time.
Note [1] : Many scholars interpret the verse 28:88 to signify the end of the world, after which the day of judgment will take place. They indirectly add God’s recreation of the universe before reading the verses ahead. But this is against the spirit of Quran. God’s word is clear and precise. There’s a reason God did not mention the recreation of the universe after its destruction here. It’s not the subject. God is talking in general terms about everything that exists besides him, even paradise and hell. Paradoxically, this verse claims “WE” humans will return to God AFTER there is nothing but God himself. The only way to resolve this conflict is to affirm our identity with God. In other words, our essence is beyond our mind, body and soul. We are not bound by them.………… Disclaimer: Many orthodox Muslims, esp Ghamidi Sb would regard this view to be close to kufr if not shirk but this has been held by majority of Sufis.
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Mr Imran your interpretation is the sufi point of view, which has basis in Islam. Sufism is a parallel religion, sufis says this because they believe they will merge or unite God.
“Everything will persih except the face of your Lord” is about this universe.
The Paradise and Hell will be created in the new universe that will be eternal only by the Will of the God swt..And Will of Allab SWT is “a reward never ending “
You are so blinded by the love of your sheikhs that you are ignoring the other verses of the Quran.
The Quran verse 14:48 states that “
Sahih International: [It will be] on the Day the earth will be replaced by another earth, and the heavens [as well], and all creatures will come out before Allah , the One, the Prevailing.
without this universe and everything in it getting perished, we cannot expect a new universe. God clearly meant the perishing about this universe, and gifting an eternal universe in the Hereafter.
In front of God words ,the words of sufis shall have no importance.
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Regarding eternal nature of heaven and hell, please refer to the following responses by Ghamidi Sahab:
Please refer to the video below from 28:30 to 36:26
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Please also refer to the video below from 32:49 to 37:01
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Please also refer to the link below from 1:31:42 to 1:34:27
https://www.youtube.com/live/cTjg2gRWYYc?feature=share&t=5502
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Please also refer to the link below from 1:07:40 to 1:08:33
https://www.youtube.com/live/7jklfIb8I5k?feature=share&t=4060
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