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Permissibility Of Taking Help From Jinns
کیا جنات سے کسی دنیاوی کام کے لئے مدد لیناگناہ ہے؟ جیسے کچھ عامل حضرات یہ کام کرتے ہیں
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Permissibility Of Taking Help From Jinns
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گناہ کسی اخلاقی برائی سے پیدا ہوتا ہے۔ اگر جنوں کو زبردستی قابو کر کے ان سے کام لیا جائے تو یہ بھی غلط ہے۔ اگر ایسا نہیں تو باہمی رضامندی سے کام لیا جاتا ہے اور کام بھی اخلاقی لحاظ سے درست ہے تو کوئی اعتراض کی وجہ نہیں۔ البتہ یہ کام خطرناک مانے جاتے ہیں۔ ان کاموں میں پڑنا مسلمانوں کے لیے کار لاحاصل ہے۔ اس کے بجائے مفید کاموں میں اپنا وقت صرف کرنا چاہیے۔
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کیا شیاطین جنوں کی خطرناک حرکتوں کو روکنے کیلئے دوسرے جنوں کی مدد لی جا سکتی ہے ؟
اس لیے پوچھا کیونکہ کچھ لوگ جنات سے کام لینے کو شرک سے تشبیح دیتے ہیں۔
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اور کیا جنات میں بھی نفسی علوم کے ماہرین موجود ہو سکتے ہیں؟
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جنات کے بارے میں ہمیں اتنی ہی معلومات ہیں جو قرآن میں بیان ہوئی۔ ان کی تفصیل دستیاب نہیں۔
جن ارادہ اور اختیار رکھتے ہیں۔ ان سے معاملہ بھی ویسے ہی ہو سکتا ہے جیسے دیگر انسانوں سے ہوتا ہے۔ عین ممکن ہے کہ ان میں نفسی علوم کے ماہرین ہوں۔
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شرک کا مطلب خدا کے ساتھ کسی کو شریک بنانا ہے۔ شرک تبھی ہوگا جب کوئی خیال یا کام میں خدا کی ذات یا صفات یا عبادت میں کسی کو شریک کیا جائے گا۔
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I have a question. Can we take help from good jinns? For example, if I am stuck somewhere or need some help and there is no one around, and I say, “Oh God’s righteous servants, help me,” is this shirk? If yes, then how? Because we can take help from things we create, like the internet and technology, and everything that is in nature, like animals, plants, and almost everything, so why not from the jinns?
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It is fake since you do not know there is anyone there to help you. When you assume something and ask for help, you assume that they have powers to help you, this assumption is not verified by reason, experience, or certified by God, therefore it is Shrik, this is actual shirk. The polytheists would do the same.
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Is it still considered shirk if I say, “If there is any of God’s righteous servants, then help me”? Here, I am asking for help but acknowledging the jinn as a servant of Allah, who has no power except what God grants. So, if he can help, he will help. Additionally, what if we find some hadiths (which might not be entirely sahih) supporting this, along with the opinions of scholars
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Yes, this was the shirk. This was the actual shirk the polytheists of Makkah were doing. There is no sound hadith in support of it.
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They used to believe that their idols possessed independent powers and could assist them in various ways. However, these idols were imaginary and not real. They attributed qualities to these idols, labelling them as God and associating things with God that He never claimed. From the Quran, we know that jinns do exist and have free will, much like humans. We also know that they have the ability to perform tasks, as illustrated in the story of Prophet Solomon. So, how can we compare these two concepts?
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To believe the presence of someone or something one is not sure about is falsehood. And when one asks for an imaginary presence for help is shirk.
The element of falsehood and asking for help both are there which makes this act a shirk.
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With all due respect, sir, you’re being biased. We know they exist. We have the Quran, which tells us they exist and are not imaginary. The Quran narrates the story of Prophet Solomon, where we learn that they used to work for him. So how can you say we are unsure about their presence? Now, if you’re talking about how one knows they are there when asking for help, consider this: what if a person is in a forest or somewhere desolate, needing help, and calls out for assistance from other humans? Would this also be considered shirk? After all, in such a situation, the person doesn’t know if any humans are present or not, yet they are seeking help from someone unseen and possibly absent.
P.S.: I have no intention of asking for help from them, as I know shirk is a very sensitive issue. I only asked the question because I find this point of view to be extreme and illogical, as it doesn’t make sense.
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Mr. Shah you raised a very good point. I am not scholar, but I gave it a little bit thought and here is what I came up with.
The jungle example is excellent, but in this example we know the extent of potential human being’s capabilities. Also we know that it is likely that some human may be around to hear your call for help. Because if you were at Mars alone, you will not be calling a human for help. We don’t even know where Jin’s exactly live (they can be anywhere all the way to the edges of heavens; which seems to be infinite distance). We don’t know whether they can hear us or not (Only Allah can always hear us and help us), if they want to get involved with helping another species and we do not know their exact capabilities to help us axcept as briefly described in Quran. Once we start asking them for help, we will get into speculation zone. We would never know if a Jin helped us or Allah did. We will start assuming that Jins can help is for things only Allah is capable of helping us. Eventually we will be praising and thanking them all day to get more help and then forget Allah.
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Mr Shah, you may ask the follow-up questions without any comments. I would appreciate it.
Ponder upon my selection of words:
“To believe the presence of someone or something one is not sure about is falsehood.”
To assume that someone might be there and to believe that someone is there are two different things.
The analogy you presented is not apt, because it also indicates a probability, not a belief that some human is there. Secondly, the probability of a human being is there is based upon our knowledge and experience that usually humans are there, therefore one may ask for help hoping that they would hear and come for help, but if a person goes to, for example, Mars and calls humans to appear to help him by believing that they are there, is a falsehood.
Quran has mentioned that the polytheist of Arabs used to seek help from jinns and called it shirk.
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