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  • Causation And God

    Posted by Ali on September 20, 2023 at 5:27 am

    Assalamualaikum,
    Who created God?
    Ghamidi Sahab said, We only look for creator of things which we can see,feel observe etc.
    We haven’t not seen,feel, observe etc, the creator, so its incoherent to ask this Question for now.
    But, What if we look at things as cause and effect.
    Universe is an effect. There must be cause.
    I know that Ultimately, the only answer is an uncaused cause which is Allah.
    Like even if the cause of the universe is another natural cause, and cause of that natural cause, it can’t go like this infinitely. It has to end with Allah to make sense.
    But as Ghamidi Sahab said in an argument of creator that When we will figured out the creator, we will look for creator of creator. For now it is incoherent to ask this question.
    So I am saying then Why we have to go that far back that leads us to Allah when we we haven’t not figured the cause whose effect is universe.
    Why this cause whose effect is universe has to be God not any Natural Cause?
    What I am trying to say is in context of Ghamidi Shahib statement.

    Faisal Haroon replied 1 year, 3 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Causation And God

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 20, 2023 at 9:02 am

    Please share a reference to Ghamidi sahab’s statement that you are referring to. If it’s a video, please post a link to the video with the appropriate time stamp. Please note that in accordance with Ask Ghamidi Code of Conduct, you are required to share appropriate references when citing someone.

  • Ali

    Member September 20, 2023 at 11:15 am

    Please Refer to this video from 3:30 to 3:46

    https://youtu.be/OO_ia-0duXQ?feature=shared.

    Sorry, I actually quoted based on my understanding of complete video.

    But,

    The exact statement is: “When we will meet the creator and found that, Creator is also created, Sure, we will look for creator of it too, But if we found that, Reality is something different, Then this question will be irrelevant”.

    So for now, this is questions is irrelevant because we have not found if creator is also created.

    No doubt again, when we argue as creator and creation.

    But if we look at things as Cause and effect.

    It is also not irrelevant to say, the cause whose effect is Universe is God because we have not found or reached to creator yet?

    We can’t go far back stop infinite regress because we haven’t not reached to cause whose effect is universe yet.

    I hope you will be able to understand the point here.

  • Faisal Haroon

    Moderator September 20, 2023 at 11:39 am

    No I am not able to understand your question. Since the original question was based on a misunderstanding, I will close this thread. Please feel free to post a new question.

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