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No Freewill According To Professor Ahmad Raffique
Posted by Shahzaib Afzal on October 10, 2023 at 1:30 pmWhat about the teachings of Professor Ahmad raffique akhtar he says we have not free will according to Germans in his lecture does a man think? Even he says man doesn’t think so how could it be justified that we have free will ? And his teachings about Sufism.. and is psychology leads to mysticism?
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No Freewill According To Professor Ahmad Raffique
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar October 10, 2023 at 11:34 pmThis question should be directed to him. What we learn from Quran is that God has given us free will to choose between good and evil and we are responsible for our choices.
Sufism is in fact Neoplatonism which penetrated into Muslims. In Deen it has no basis.
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Faisal Haroon
Moderator October 11, 2023 at 11:15 amFor future, please note that when you attribute anything to a person, a proper reference is required. Please see Ask Ghamidi Code of Conduct for details.
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Shahzaib Afzal
Member October 11, 2023 at 4:51 pmhttps://youtu.be/5gpu63E3O_8?si=zdHeBApB9A8jVB4xPlease refer to 15:00 to 16:48 R mne kaaha h k achi baat h na k Allah ko yaad kr ry hn tasbeeh kr k r apni first priority of intellectual research and curiosity Allah ko rkha hua hai toh theek h ism namaz bhi hai Quran ki talawat bhi hai r tadbur bhi r sth sth remembarance bhi Sb kam hry hn lkn ghamidi shb itna mushkl kr k deen ko kyu btatay hn k test h sb kch yun socha jaye toh zndgi bht mushkl hjti hai yeh soch Theek ni h r sb Allah p chor k zndgi guzari jaye toh aman bhi r skun bhi beshk dilo ka skun Allah ki yaad m hai toh Woh ap Sufi hokr kr ry ho ya deendar hok purpose pura hra hai
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Shahzaib Afzal
Member October 11, 2023 at 4:56 pmAnd where it is written in Quran that we have free will?
It’s about the matter of jabar or qadr
And if have free will than we are not able to succeed as a nation or as umah all we want is to be succeed as a nation still we are not able to achieve that it’s about the matter of jabr or qadr
Free will is not allowing us to succeed Allah has ordained a destiny for us all and we are marching towards to it
Free will concept by ghamidi shb is just for the people who believe in it it’s all about spreading the message of Islam in truth we don’t have free will
We do what Allah wants us to do for His own will tm cha bhi ni skty agr Allah nah chay
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Umer
Moderator October 12, 2023 at 7:48 amOne thing is Izan of Allah due to which we humans have been given freewill in this world and the sovereignty/authority/Khilafat of this earth to excercise that freewill. Allah has given his permission to humans to excercise this authority in some domains for His scheme of tests and trials in this world. This freewill is restricted to a limited sphere for which we will be held accountable on the day of judgement (See Quran 41:40, 2:256, 18:29, 10:99-100). For the concept of Khilafa and Freewill in the light of Quran 2:30 and 33:72 , please see: Discussion 2864)
Except for the areas mentioned above, all the rest of the matters or their timings have already been predetermined, subject to Allah’s will of course, which is called Taqdir. See Quran 16:69 and also refer to the first video of Ghamidi Sahab shared below.
Taqdir can be either Mubram (absolute/non-changeable) or Moallaq (conditional/contingent) as per Quran 13:38-39 and also refer to the second and third videos of Ghamidi Sahab shared below. Even Moallaq destiny is also linked with freewill at times because its timing depends on certain decisions taken by humans out of their freewill. For example, The matter of death for every human being in itself is Mubram but the timing of death can vary depending on different factors like hygience and health care etc. which makes it Moallaq in this sense.
The same applies to nation as a whole. The rise and fall of nations belong to the Moallaq form of destiny where nations rise/fall after they fulfill certain criteria at a collective level and this has been explained in Quran as a separate Sunnat of Allah (Please see for details: Discussion 22313).
This covers the whole viewpoint of Ghamidi Sahab. Now kindy direct your critique (if any) on his whole viewpoint in the light of Quran.
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First Video (Quran: 16:69) – from 16:49 to 23:09
https://www.youtube.com/live/A5w9dwi-_Nk?si=mxM_UdTUXVSUv6Ms&t=1009
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Umer
Moderator October 12, 2023 at 7:49 amSecond Video (Quran: 13:38-39) – from 24:20 to 29:22
https://www.youtube.com/live/n_YNHKXpKmg?si=D0qEthBHPD5MWh85&t=1460
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Umer
Moderator October 12, 2023 at 7:49 amThird Video (Quran: 13:38-39) – from 2:43 to 11:48
https://www.youtube.com/live/UEprNtqMGaI?si=5YWnj4wvZBeAdzMN&t=163
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Faisal Haroon
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