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  • Buying Outside The Market And Sell On The Behalf Of Bedouin

    Posted by Muhammad Rohaan Tahir on October 7, 2025 at 9:05 pm

    Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) forbade (1) the meeting of the caravan (of goods) on the way, (2) and that a residing person buys for a bedouin, (3) and that a woman stipulates the divorce of the wife of the would-be husband, (4) and that a man tries to cause the cancellation of a bargain concluded by another. He also forbade An-Najsh (see Hadith 824) and that one withholds the milk in the udder of the animal so that he may deceive people on selling it.

    (Bukhari 2727)

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “No town-dweller should sell for a bedouin. Do not practice Najsh (i.e. Do not offer a high price for a thing which you do not want to buy, in order to deceive the people). No Muslim should offer more for a thing already bought by his Muslim brother, nor should he demand the hand of a girl already engaged to another Muslim. A Muslim woman shall not try to bring about The divorce of her sister (i.e. another Muslim woman) in order to take her place herself

    (Bukhari 2723)

    It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Prophet (ﷺ) said:

    “Do not meet the traders on the way, and whoever meets any of them and buys from him, the vendor has the choice of annulling the transaction when he comes to the marketplace.”

    (Ibn e Majah 2178)

    What is the meaning “No town-dweller should sell for a bedouin”?

    And

    Can’t we buy goods outside the market like before it actually comes to the market?

    Kindly clarify this.

    Waiting for your response

    Muhammad Rohaan Tahir replied 6 days, 23 hours ago 2 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Buying Outside The Market And Sell On The Behalf Of Bedouin

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 8, 2025 at 1:29 am

    Anything prohibited must have something objectionable.

    In this case, the middleman would buy from the villagers at a lower rate, below the market price, taking advantage of their ignorance, and then sell the commodity in the market. This practice was unethical, so the prophet forbade it.

  • Muhammad Rohaan Tahir

    Member October 8, 2025 at 1:37 am

    So,now in markets there are still middleman means shopkippers from where we buy in between us and the farmer who brings goods in a market.

    So, it is not permssible for the shopkeeper to take profit beacuse he is in between the main farmer and the end user.

    Direct dealing between us and farmer not takesplace due to to middle man(shopkeeper)

    I am little confused in this?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 8, 2025 at 2:21 am

    The shopkeeper is not the middleman. He buys from the villagers at the market rate and then sells in retail. The villagers cannot stay to sell their things, so a man from the market buys from them at the market rate and then sells it.

  • Muhammad Rohaan Tahir

    Member October 8, 2025 at 7:06 am

    And sir what about that if we directly purchase from the farmer instead of market (shopkeeper) like buy grains for whole year for personal use or to sell on our own retail shop.

    By this we can save the money because we directly purchase from the farmer instead of shopkeeper.

    Is it allowed or this also comes under the same heading

    We Can’t buy goods outside the market like before it actually comes to the market?

    In simple words

    I want to ask can i directly purchase some thing from the manufacturer (farmer) instead of shopkeeper sitting in a market?

    Kindly respond to this question sir.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 16, 2025 at 12:51 am

    There is nothing unethical. If you pay him the money which the man in the market will pay him, you can buy from him.

  • Muhammad Rohaan Tahir

    Member October 16, 2025 at 12:58 am

    If the farmer and the buyer agree on price less than market then is it also permissible?

  • Muhammad Rohaan Tahir

    Member October 16, 2025 at 1:14 am

    In comparison to old times now due to advancement farmer gets the market rate through mobile phone.

    Benefits of direct dealing.

    Farmer avoid the expense of going to market and avoid the commission of the agents of market.

    And

    The buyer get the lower price than the market retailer price as the buyer is directly buying from the farmer.

    So if the farmer and buyer are agreed on a price (the price is lower than market price).

    Is this deal is fine and permissible?

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 16, 2025 at 5:26 am

    When there is no intention to deceive or harm and the decision is made in the light of information, there is nothing objectionable.

  • Muhammad Rohaan Tahir

    Member October 16, 2025 at 5:27 am

    Ok sir irfan

  • Muhammad Rohaan Tahir

    Member October 16, 2025 at 6:33 am

    For any reason let’s say farmer doesnot have to go to market his traveling expense is avoided in that way and also the commission of market agent is also avoided in that way.

    If the farmer and buyer makes a direct deal

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