When Did Zamzam Start Flowing?

[Dr. Irfan Shahzad]

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The origin of zamzam is not known. It was already there when Kaaba was built. The story of child Ishamael with Zamzam goes against Quranic description which tells that Ishmael started living there after the construction of kaaba and he was a youngman then and not only Ishmael but the second son of Ibrahim had born. The event of sacrifice of Ishmael had taken place well before this. See the Quranic verses 14: 35-39, which tell Ibrahim’s prayer after building kaaba.

[Ayub Hamid]

Thanks and JAK for attempting to answer my question.

It goes without saying that zamzam was there before ka’bah was built. No one is disputing that. But your claim that Isma’eel was settled in Makkah after ka’bah was built is totally baseless. رَبَّنَاۤ اِنِّىۡۤ اَسۡكَنۡتُ مِنۡ ذُرِّيَّتِىۡ بِوَادٍ غَيۡرِ ذِىۡ زَرۡعٍ عِنۡدَ بَيۡتِكَ الۡمُحَرَّمِۙ does not suggest that he was settled there at that time. This is your attempt to read into it what you want. Family could have settled there earlier any time in the past. And that is what is suggested by 2:125 وَاتَّخِذُوۡا مِنۡ مَّقَامِ اِبۡرٰهٖمَ مُصَلًّى​ ؕ which suggests that Ibraheem and his family were already settled in Makkah before Ka’bah was built. That is why it was called maqaami-ibraheem. Common sense also tells that they must be living there before Allaah swt told them to build His House. Otherwise, they would not have been commuting from somewhere else to build it.

Also, if as per Ghamidi Sahib, the ruins of Ka’bah were there since Adam, and Ibraheem only re-built it, then عِنۡدَ بَيۡتِكَ الۡمُحَرَّمِۙ can refer to the foundation that were there.

At the end, may I suggest that please let Ghamidi sahib answer my question,

[Ahsan]

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