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  • Response To Article Claiming Homosexuality Ok In Islam

    Ahsan updated 1 year, 11 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
  • Ahsan

    Moderator May 6, 2023 at 2:22 pm

    For Ghamidi sb point of view plz see Discussion 1499

    For lot as story see Discussion 1601

    How people have behaved in the past has nothing to do with religion. We have sources of religion, we deduce from there the actual ruling.

    The notion that God love all unconditionally is also not true according to Quran.

    If you have any specific point not discussed in video, you can write that point. Or you can register yourself for next ask ghamidi session and ask the question in summarised manner

  • Nadia Khan

    Member May 7, 2023 at 8:06 am

    Thank you for pointing me to the videos and conversations regarding my question. Extremely helpful for my research. One point that didn’t seem to come across and apologies of I missed it. The example of comparing a handicapped person (for example a person with no legs) and a homosexual as both being subjected to Allah’s trial doesn’t seem equal. If a lame person is offered prosthetic legs no one tells him to refrain from using them because he is undergoing a god given trial. A homosexual if offered a chance at forming a consensual loving respectful union recognized by the state as having equal rights is asked by Muslims to refuse and instead forever bear his lonely trial. To summarize my point homosexuals are the only afflicted group who are told to never hope for a partner (please don’t say they can always marry a woman when we all know they can’t and even the Quran acknowledges men who have no use for a woman).

    Another example that a moderator gave which is that of a heterosexual person who cannot marry and yet stays away from zina feels the same sexual frustration of a homosexual abstaining from the act is also not at all comparable because the hetrosexual man has the hope and blessing of Allah to continue to find a woman to marry and the homosexual is asked to be hopeless. Hope is a beautiful thing that keeps us living and to deny homosexuals this hope seems cruelty.

    By the way, I appreciate so much the Ask Ghamidi team who make it possible to reasonably and rationally put forward thoughts and arguments and not fear judgement or harsh comments. Thank you very much.

  • Deleted User 8707

    Moderator May 7, 2023 at 4:48 pm

    The American Psychiatric Association as well as the World Health Organization used to list homosexuality as a mental disorder up until recently. In the past few decades they started considering homosexuality as natural and normal sexual orientation, consequently removing it from the list of mental disorders. In doing so, they only redefined the word normal, despite evidence that it should strictly refer to heterosexuality. In every other instance, a person is considered to be mentally abnormal if he/she does not behave like the majority of other human beings in some crucial way. In their assessment, this rule does not apply to homosexuality. This is just a preference based viewpoint which lacks any intellectual grounding, and that is why we reject it.

    With that said, Ghamidi sahab is certainly not against medically or psychologically treating homosexuality. If there is any such treatment available, one is free to pursue it in an effort to be able to live a normal life as a heterosexual.

  • Umer

    Moderator May 8, 2023 at 7:50 am
  • Nadia Khan

    Member May 28, 2023 at 9:44 am

    I am trying to put together my question within a 30-second time frame for today’s live session with Ghamidi Sahib but I have questions arising from surah Ash-shura and surah Al-Ankabut. I also need to better understand Ghamidi Sahib’s inference about homosexuality based on the ‘usool’ stated in Surah Mominoon (verses 4,5,7) and Surah Muarij verses 29,30). I also need to clarify my understanding from time stamp 14:25, 15:19 and 16:39 in the video you kindly shared above. I just wanted to ask if there is any other venue or possible session with Ghamidi Sahib where I can ask all my questions? 30 seconds seem very little to remove the ‘khatakh’ from my mind about his topic. And in my Islamic studies, I love the approach Ghamidi Sahib tells students to adopt which is to continue to ask questions until the ‘khatak’ is gone. I don’t want to sound rude but I am afraid that Ghamidi Sahib may die and then I will have lost the chance to directly ask him. Can you please help?

    • Umer

      Moderator May 29, 2023 at 1:09 pm

      You can send your points to Hasan ilyas Sahab on his Whatsapp Number which I have shared with you in a private message.

    • Nadia Khan

      Member May 29, 2023 at 3:11 pm

      Thank you very much. Very appreciated.

    • Ahsan

      Moderator May 29, 2023 at 11:38 pm

      @Nadia Khan
      If its ok for you, kindly share his response to your question here.
      It will be good for my learning too.

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