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  • Contradiction In Literal Quotations Of Quran 7:122 Vs Quran 20:70

    Posted by Ammar Ahmed on October 30, 2024 at 3:13 am

    So my question is similar to a previous one I asked here, where it was clarified that the Quran uses certain features but wherever it mentions that someone said this etc in a historical reference or anything, then it is literal. Now in these verses, primarily, the order has been changed to maintain rhythm and rhyme and overall eloquence and flow, which is understandable (the first says that the magicians said we believe in the lord of haroon and moosa, the second that they said we believe in the lord of moosa and haroon) but then again if historical references to what people said in the past are literal and true and not just literary devices or symbolic or to make a point, then what did they actually say? It can’t have been both right? It has to be one: they either said moosa first or haroon. So then again, is this a contradiction, and if not, then they are not “literal” literal, and that would apply to all sayings then, in all conversations of the Quran. Maybe my lack of knowledge of the language is confusing me, but can the moderators please shed some light on this point? And generally on how to take sayings sayings or conversations or any speech references in the Quran? (Literally or not)

    Ammar Ahmed replied 1 week, 5 days ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Contradiction In Literal Quotations Of Quran 7:122 Vs Quran 20:70

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar October 30, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    You are confusing literal and direct speech. In a direct speech, exact quote is conveyed. In literal meaning, the apparent meaning of words are taken, which involves no metaphor. While telling an episode, The arrangement of the words is the arbitration of the narrator according to the occasion and style of the language he uses at the moment.

    • Ammar Ahmed

      Member October 31, 2024 at 12:24 pm

      Right, sorry for using confusing wording but I meant the same thing as you clarified in the answer. So then sayings of people in the Quran like this are not taken as direct quotations but as Allah relating to us what they said in His own words in the form of a kalam? Because in reality they must’ve said either Musa or Haroon first and not both ways. But since these are not their direct words so the order and manner isn’t important. Is this the right way of understanding it?

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