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  • Three Unanswered Questions: Origin Of Matter, Life And Consciousness

    Posted by Shaharyar Sabeeh on November 10, 2024 at 1:12 pm

    Assalamualaikum!
    https://youtube.com/shorts/gk8cM6oMsFY?si=Z6gNj9LYelmcMW5v
    In the video above, Ghamidi Saheb poses 3 questions:
    1. What is the origin of matter?
    2. How does life begin in matter?
    3. How does consciousness arise in life?
    The first and the third questions remain truly unanswered to date. As for the second question, if you look at the detailed video, Ghamidi Saheb says that how do mere nutrients and macromolecules that we consume become part of the factory that is then able to produce life, is still unknown.

    This question is further elaborated in his essay Khuda Par Eemaan.

    خدا پر ایمان https://www.javedahmedghamidi.org/#!/ishraq/662a3c71a88a60001a274a48?articleId=662a3ecda88a60001a274aaa

    The point is that we do know very well how our consumed nutrients become part of the reproductive cycle.

    They’re absorbed in blood, reach the reproductive cells via blood circulation and diffuse around them, and then are taken up by cellular processes by the cells.

    At no point do they ‘convert’ into life. They enter the cells that are ALREADY present there, are metabolized by the cellular factory that is already there. This is how raw material is provided to cells to replicate every component of theirs.

    Please help me understand that why is this question there?

    What is the actual premises of this question?

    What prior scientists or philosophers (who were aware of biology) have risen this question?

    Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 3 weeks, 4 days ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Three Unanswered Questions: Origin Of Matter, Life And Consciousness

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar November 10, 2024 at 10:27 pm

    No one truly understands why a specific effect arises from a given cause. This is the case for all phenomena. For instance, we don’t know why fire burns or ice cools. We only recognize the effect and its connection to the cause. If ice were to burn and fire were to cool, we would simply accept them as such.

    What we comprehend is the process, but we never grasp the true nature of the effect that emerges through it. Consciousness and life are not intrinsic to matter, yet they seem to arise from it, this is unexplainable.

    • Shaharyar Sabeeh

      Member November 13, 2024 at 4:45 am

      So why reduce it to only embryology?

    • Shaharyar Sabeeh

      Member November 13, 2024 at 4:58 am

      So why reduce it to only embryology?

      And even in embryology, I have already mentioned that now we know very well the steps in detail that how nutrients consumed become part of reproductive system which then provides them to already present living cells that are haploid, and so on. All this occurs under very explainable chemical and cellular processes; the reactions, chemical mediators, genetic architecture to regulate it etc. We also know how nutrients reach near cells and the membrane crossing mechanisms.
      Can you pin point exactly the thing that Ghamidi Saheb is trying to tell we don’t know?
      Rather, the argument would have been stronger had it been based on abiogenesis i.e how did life on earth originate. This is what we truly don’t know.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar November 13, 2024 at 5:17 am

    If You agree with the fact that connection between cause and effect is unknown, that why a certain cause should produce a certain effect, then the mention of life life and conscious is the for their being the fundamental phenomena.

    • Shaharyar Sabeeh

      Member November 13, 2024 at 10:00 am

      Anyway, does this question pertain only to Humans or also upon other simpler life forms such as bacteria?

    • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

      Scholar November 13, 2024 at 11:27 pm

      The problem enunciated above encompasses every phenomenon.

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