Forums › Forums › Epistemology And Philosophy › Word Khatam Used In An Arabic Couplet
Tagged: Khatam-e-Nabuwat, Principles, Quran
-
Word Khatam Used In An Arabic Couplet
Posted by Shayiq Shah on November 17, 2024 at 11:11 amhttps://youtu.be/anrbvAyk6Pw?si=-Om-6l7kjh8NQQrC
In above linke 23:01
Ghamidi sahab gives his view on khatam used in poem
Can you please elaborate it
Dr. Irfan Shahzad replied 4 days, 23 hours ago 2 Members · 7 Replies -
7 Replies
-
Word Khatam Used In An Arabic Couplet
-
Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar November 18, 2024 at 12:22 amThere is only one couplet in Arabic which is cited in which khatam ( not Khatim) is used. I mentioned it in my book, Khatam e Nubuwwat aur Ahmadi Istadlaal.
It is not confirmed that it was khatam and not Khatim still it is presented as khatam.
-
Shayiq Shah
Member November 18, 2024 at 6:51 amHas anyone else gave aeraab to this couplet…
I mean have someone else other than poet …gave aeraaab to this
-
Shayiq Shah
Member November 18, 2024 at 7:00 amIf someone given aeraab like this…..
So on what basis,it is given….
I mean in many cases khatam is given taa maftohaa…
So saying that they all did it wrong…or all were influenced by Quranic usage..is how much right to say…
2)what is usage evidence for your meaning….
I mean even we have to get evidences that yes when khatAm has izafat towards jumah…
It is used in meaning of last…not mere on the basis of word meaning of khatam can be that satisfying…
I mean for our meaning are there any poetry,and other literary evidences….
Actually sir….i am talking about research paper of yourself while yours honor wrote book ahmadi istidlal….
I mean if you have collected those usages….
Sir please publish it then …it will be ground breaking.
-
Shayiq Shah
Member November 19, 2024 at 12:53 amAlso sir any other language based book on this topic
-
Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar November 20, 2024 at 1:10 amThere is only one verse and this is of a post-Quranic poet, therefore, its usage cannot be cited because, in principle, the classical use of the word is quoted from pre-Quranic kalam.
The poet did not put the Arab (diacritical marks) because they were invented later.
All the usage of the word Khatam, Khawateem, Khatma, indicate the end of something. The Quran used this word in different forms and all mean the end. So the word Khaatam in verse 33:40 gives no other meaning but the end.
If someone insists that it has some other meaning, they need to provide evidence for their innovative idea.
-
Shayiq Shah
Member December 3, 2024 at 7:21 pmIn above video,what does Ghamidi sahab mean that we can not differentiate khatam and khatim while considering wazan…..of this….
Can you please elaborate it?
-
Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar December 4, 2024 at 1:56 amBoth words have the same wazn, which means both have two syllables.
Sponsor Ask Ghamidi