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Being A Quranist & Following Only Quran
After researching a lot_ I choose to be Quranist_ will pray 3 times a day, do Quranic wudu _ Give charity as much as I can.
Basically I believe in Monotheism, the enteral, infinite, creator of existence itself.
Even if I don’t believe in any religion,I would be Monotheistic_ because I refuse to believe that everything in the universe _ since the Big Bang and now When I’m conscious_ is a coincidence_ it’s impossible and chances are nearly 0%
But I found Hadith logically problematic, Even if I ignore ethical problems in it_ and Quran said that It is complete
So by only following Quran, will I be still Muslim?
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Being A Quranist & Following Only Quran
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Yes, certainly—because when a person becomes the kind of human being the Qur’an seeks, they will attain Paradise. If you have faith in the Qur’an, then you are a Muslim; there is no doubt about this.But I have a question:The Qur’an calls its followers Muslims, so what difficulty do you have in calling yourself a Muslim?The Qur’an makes five daily prayers obligatory, so why do you pray only three times?Please read “Tadabbur-e-Qur’an” by Maulana Amin Ahsan Islahi.
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The Quran mentioned 3 prayers.
Beside I see lot of zoroastrianism influence in Hadith
Examples
1. Zoroastrianism: After death, souls must cross the Chinvat Bridge. If you were good, it stays wide; if you were evil, it turns as thin as a hair and as sharp as a sword, dropping you into a pit of demons.
The Hadith: Mentions the Sirat bridge over Hell, described exactly the same way—thinner than a hair and sharper than a sword.
2. Zoroastrianism/Persian Lore: The idea of “Sraosha” and “Vayu” or demons interrogating the soul and the “squeezing” of the body in the earth.
The Hadith: Detailed stories of Munkar and Nakir (interrogating angels) and the “squeezing of the grave” that even righteous people can’t escape
3. The Five Prayers (Gahs)
Zoroastrianism: Practiced five daily prayers called Gahs (Havan, Rapithwin, Uzayirin, Aiwisruthrem, and Ushahin). They also perform ritual washing (ablution) before these prayers.
The Hadith: Mandates five prayers, often using the “50-to-5” negotiation story to bridge the gap between the Quranic 3-time framework and the existing Persian 5-time framework.
I believe 5 prayers are later standardization under Persian/Zoroastrianism influence_ there is authentic reports that prophet Muhammad use to combined prayers even when there is no reason
Further indication for me that there might be 3 prayers.
But I am a sincere knowledge seeker_ I will appreciate other opinions .
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Your point is respectable, and it is encouraging that you are sincerely seeking knowledge. However, a few important clarifications are necessary:1. The Qur’an and the number of prayersIt is true that the Qur’an mentions prayer times in different places through indications, but the Qur’an has deliberately left the details of many rulings to the Sunnah.For example:The Qur’an does not specify the number of rak‘ahsIt does not state the nisab (minimum amount) for zakatIt does not provide the complete practical details of HajjSimilarly, the number of daily prayers and their practical form are established through the Sunnah of the Prophet ﷺ.2. Evidence of five daily prayers through continuous practice (tawatur)The five daily prayers are not based on a single hadith but have reached us through continuous, uninterrupted communal practice across generations.From the time of the Prophet ﷺ until today, the entire Muslim ummah has consistently practiced five daily prayers, which is strong evidence that this is not a later innovation.3. The purpose of the Mi‘raj narrationThe narration of prayers being reduced from fifty to five is not meant to align Islam with any Persian system. Rather, it highlights:The greatness of prayerThe mercy of AllahEase for the ummahThis narration has been reported by multiple Companions and was accepted without dispute in the early Muslim community.4. The issue of resemblance to Zoroastrian beliefsSimilarity does not necessarily mean a shared source.Concepts such as the afterlife, a bridge, accountability, and questioning of the soul also exist in:JudaismChristianityAncient Semitic religionsThese are part of the continuity of divine revelation, not borrowed ideas.5. Reports about combining prayersThe Prophet ﷺ combining prayers without an apparent reason:Was to teach ease and flexibilityWas not a permanent practiceDoes not prove that five prayers were reduced to threeThis was an exceptional allowance within jurisprudence, not a permanent system.6. Consensus of the Companions and SuccessorsIf the prayers were truly only three:There would have been serious disagreement among the CompanionsDifferent regions would have followed different systemsHistory records no such disagreement.Conclusion:Questioning is not against faith. However, declaring a core act of worship to be a later invention solely based on apparent similarities does not meet historical or scholarly standards.The five daily prayers are established through the Qur’an, Sunnah, consensus, and continuous practice.May Allah grant us the ability to recognize the truth as truth and follow it.Additional note:Being cautious regarding hadith is valid and necessary, but not to the extent that even authentic (sahih) hadith are dismissed as incorrect. Our scholars have already scrutinized, refined, and clarified the authentic body of hadith and presented the foundational structure of Islam accordingly.I would also suggest studying “Meezan” by Javed Ahmad Ghamidi, which presents a systematic and principled approach to understanding religion.
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Thanks for your reply, and interest in this topic_ I appreciate it
If we ignore ethical problems in Hadith _ they are logically and fundamentally flaw .
Like I believe Miʿrāj incident is exaggerated
First _ God can’t reveal 50 prayers _ It was never revealed in previous scriptures as well_ and It is impossible the way the humans are created “to function like this”
It’s means prayer every 28 minutes, can’t sleep, can’t do jop, sustain family _ humans can’t function like this
And prophet Moses is dead, and according to Quran dead can’t hear _ so he can’t advice prophet Muhammad to negotiate with God
And prophet Muhammad negotiating with the God!
It indicate god misjudged or get into pressure or influenceThe god in which I believe in is “all knowing”, “Creator of existence”
No one, and I mean “no one” can negotiate with God, and god can’t make mistake.
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When I read Hadith with my strict monotheist lens _ it feels flaw _ dragging the status of “my Lord” down to other religions levelI mean the only thing separate Islam from between Christianity, Zoroastrianism and Judaism is our strict Monotheism _ otherwise there is no difference
So I rather maintain this difference
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Please watch Ustadh Javed Ahmad Ghamidi’s video about the Miʿrāj-related hadith. According to him, this hadith is not sound, neither in its chain nor in its meaning.If the authenticity of a hadith is not established, then rejecting it is your religious duty.Make the Qur’an the criterion between truth and falsehood.Whatever fully agrees with the Qur’an, accept it,and whatever does not meet the Qur’anic standard, reject it.And I sincerely recommend reading Maulana Wahiduddin Khan’s book “Ma‘rifat”.
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I will be honest
I don’t want any historical baggage _ or defend actions and opinions of companions, scholars and past generations
I believe in absolute Monotheism _ and I arrived at this conclusion by pure logic, deep thinking, scientific understanding and research.
And after reading and exhausting all options_ I find out that Quran is the most strict Monotheistic book
So I accept it _ I am not going to talk about people in history,or what”so and so said so”_ when the literal words of God is in my hands
I couldn’t care less how companions, or past generations and scholar was _ I don’t know them,I never meet them ,I can’t force myself to love someone my heart don’t accept_
They are not “my Lord”
On the day of judgment god won’t going to ask me “Who was the 2nd caliphat?”_ or what “so and so said”_ he will ask me “what I did with things and knowledge I was giving”
So I am “Muslim” because I submits to one God_ I can also call myself “hanif” for pure Monotheism _ or this religion “Islam”_ or “religion of Ibrahim”
All from Quran.
Labels doesn’t matter, these are just words _ what your heart believes is the only thing that matters.
So Quran is sufficient for me _ let god decide on day of judgment
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I respect your honesty and the seriousness with which you have approached the question of faith. Seeking God through reason, reflection, and sincerity is itself a fundamental call of the Qur’an.There is no doubt that the Qur’an is the clearest and strongest book on pure Monotheism, and no Muslim can disagree with this. Submitting to One God is the core foundation, and on the Day of Judgment every person will bear responsibility for their own deeds.At the same time, the Qur’an presents itself not only as a book of belief, but also as guidance for practical life, and it repeatedly points toward the Messenger as a means of understanding and guidance. Learning from history or scholars does not mean taking people as lords; rather, it is about seeing how revelation was first understood and lived.The real objective is not names or labels, but sincerity, humility, and truthfulness before God. If your intention is solely to worship Allah and follow His guidance, then this intention carries great weight in the sight of Allah.Ultimately, the authority of judgment belongs to Allah alone. Every individual will be held accountable according to the knowledge, understanding, and sincerity that were granted to them.If you have faith in the Qur’an and act upon it, then follow it — that is sufficient. Scholars and other respected historical personalities are merely examples; whoever wishes may take guidance from them. If you feel no attraction or connection to their personalities, there is no obligation upon you to do so. You already possess the best guidance.
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In our society, most people inherit their religion. I did not accept the religion of my parents—Islam—blindly, but rather after research and understanding.
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Our critique and key points of difference with Quranist epistemology are presented in the videos shared in the following thread. Please take some time to watch them.
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“I will definitely watch it.”
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https://youtube.com/shorts/DV6JwztO1NQ?si=CoGIptnC6dXWzGCI
I Hope link is clickable
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I agree with this point that people made the prophets partners in God’s divinity. The same treatment was done with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ as well. Whereas the Messenger never claimed such a status for himself; rather, the Messengers were always extremely humble. With the Messenger of Allah too, people dealt in the same way.In this, it is not the fault of the prophets or their companions. If people do not truly know about them, then that is their ignorance.So in this matter, is it really the fault of any prophet or their companions?Earlier, I did not have this kind of love for the Prophet, but after reading his seerah (biography), I now have love—though not the ignorant kind, but one that should be based on knowledge and understanding.There is no need to read seerah in many volumes; reading Maulana Wahiduddin Khan’s seerah is enough—it is about 300 pages long.
Now what you think about this topic?
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And since when did we start making distinctions among the prophets? From the first to the last, we hold love for all of them—and why should we not? These are the personalities who, by Allah’s permission, showed us the path to success in both worlds. Yet even in this matter, the One who gives guidance is God; however, God made them prophets as a means. After all, God considered them worthy of this responsibility, and that is why He chose them.
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“I did not send this for the hadith about Hazrat Jesus. This is for thinking over the rules that have been stated regarding having belief in a hadith.”
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Thanks brother for giving me time and engaging_ God bless you
I would use Quran
1. Prophet Muhammad: “Indeed, in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for whoever has hope in Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah often.” (Surah Al-Ahzab, 33:21)
2.Prophet Ibrahim: “Indeed, there has been an excellent example for you in Ibrahim and those with him…” (Surah Al-Mumtahanah, 60:4).
So same thing about both prophets
Now Where do I find the example of prophet Ibrahim?_ in Quran of course
And regarding companions of prophet Muhammad _ I read history and its conflating and contradictory narratives
Like some of their actions was righteous and good_ but other totally contradictory regarding human dignity.
In the fact that the companions of prophet Jesus Christ after his death_ declared him “son of God”_ Simon Peter is a example_ indicate a cautious approach and warning for me
Honestly I don’t know who the companions was _ and “I can’t decide people fate regarding that they are in heaven or not”_ only God knows
Plus I find lot of there opinions and actions contradictory to my Fitrah.
Quran is preserved by God himself
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There is always a reason for loving someone or having devotion toward them. If you do not know the reason, then even if someone tells you a thousand times to love them, you cannot develop that kind of feeling. This was exactly the case with me before.
And it is a very good thing that you are in search of guidance. May Allah guide you and grant you true direction. -
Who has made love for the Sahaba a foundation of religion? If it is not, then it is not.
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Thanks brother
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Welcome
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Thank you for explaining your thoughts so clearly. I truly respect your sincerity and your concern for protecting your faith. Questioning with the intention of avoiding shirk and seeking Allah’s pleasure is not something negative. We may approach understanding in different ways, but the goal is the same: truth and closeness to Allah. May Allah purify our intentions, protect us from error, and guide us to the straight path with wisdom and humility. May He accept our prayers and increase us in beneficial knowledge. Allah Hafiz.
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