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  • Purpose Of Life

    Posted by Waleed Ahmed on March 29, 2026 at 7:57 am

    I know Mr. Ghamidi says that purpose of life is to make it as beautiful as possible while preserving ones own moral self.

    A few questions,

    1. Life is designed to reward logic, action, cold-blooded calculation over beauty. So if someone tries to follow above, or some civilization tries, they will be trounced because they will be weak. If being strong, is the goal in life, then where does the aesthetic sense factor in. What is its role?

    2. Also, what is taqwa, if beauty is the goal? Isn’t taqwa 180 degrees opposite of beauty, it is self-control (rational decision making), whereas beauty in our case means emotional decision making.

    3. Where do we factor in morality. Because from what I understand, morality isn’t something within itself. It is dependent on how you define your goal and outlook at life. After you define that, you decide that what is moral and what is not.

    4. What is the ultimate goal? The intended ideal end result. More importantly, why is that end goal defined like this?

    @Umer25

    Waleed Ahmed replied 2 weeks, 4 days ago 2 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member March 29, 2026 at 9:25 am

    To add on,

    Lets say someone wants to life an aesthetic life and the other person wants to live a disciplined life. The disciplined one would have more talented children, better impact on society, better lifestyle etc. But would have a horrendous and difficult life. What aesthetic is necessary. Being a drug addict is the pique of pleasure. Is it aesthetic. I mean the devil is in the details. how would you define aesthetic?

    If we agree that everything aesthetic has to be abhorred in favor of everything controllable and predictable, then it demands a whole new moral framework. Because the second part morality is contingent on the answer of the first part, what you do with your 24 hours.

  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member March 29, 2026 at 12:35 pm

    If we agree that everything aesthetic has to be abhorred in favor of everything controllable and predictable, then it demands a whole new moral framework. Because the second part morality is contingent on the answer of the first part, what you do with your 24 hours.

  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member March 31, 2026 at 10:45 am

    @Umer25

    @Irfan76

    Can you resolve this logical conundrum for me

  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member April 3, 2026 at 3:35 am

    Was my question understandable?

  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member April 8, 2026 at 10:22 am

    @Umer25

    Please answer this question. This is a very big confusion that I have.

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar April 8, 2026 at 11:42 pm

    Lawlessness or unrestricted freedom leads to chaos. Discipline makes life beautiful. Unruly traffic is beauty or following the rules is beauty. Taqwas, therefore, makes life beautiful.

  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member April 9, 2026 at 1:24 am

    You are mixing two things, things that are easily percievable like a linear order (in our case traffic) are beautiful because they make the life of our brain easier.


    But a lot of things make life of our brains easier that is fundamentally anti aesthetic, like to wipe out poverty why not create a self perpetuating working system and then kill all the people that can’t be thrown in it.

    Killing palestinians would make the whole area jewish, that would make it more developed, more happier, is it moral?


    Ease of perception isn’t the only aesthetic acumen out there. You are trying to stipulate the aesthetics are objective, when they are not. People can have fundamentally opposite interests

    Moreover, discipline is going against your nature and making yourself do what you don’t want to, how is that aesthetic? Somethime downright vulgarity leads to uncanny beauty. Like melting iron at more than a 1000 degrees can help you craft anything with it.

    I am confused that how a thing like aesthetic can become the cornerstone of morality.


  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member April 9, 2026 at 11:26 am

    Dear @Irfan76
    My question is still there, why is being a drug/sex addict wrong? Because for addicts it is the height of pleasure. No?
    Is it aesthetic? If not, how do you define aesthetic, something that is horrible on yourself, like discipline?
    If aesthetic means something that is predictable and calculable, like orderly traffic then predictability and calculability are NOT only achieved through the TRADITIONAL moral code. Things that are considered fundamentally anti-moral can make life more predictable and orderly like killing the poor to temporarily suspend poverty, if you have sufficiently strong working class and a decent amount of industrial automation, you can safely do it, without any consequences. It would increase mean happiness in the society.
    Why does my aesthetic have to match yours? If not, then both of us would have separate moral codes. Ergo, we can’t live in a state together under the same judicial umbrella.
    Another fitting example would be that is it moral to sleep all day or toil under the sun to provide for your child. Either you suffer or the child, what is the difference, AESTHETICALLY speaking?
    Additionally, ease of perception merely means that a thing is predictable and calculable. It can be a non-linear order, which would appear as chaos to most, but an art work to a selected few. Does that mean that designing a non-linear robotic control system IS MORAL? lol

  • Dr. Irfan Shahzad

    Scholar April 11, 2026 at 11:50 pm

    Pleasure and aesthetics are two different things. Pleasure can be achieved from something not aesthetic.

    Beauty lies in disciple.

  • Waleed Ahmed

    Member April 12, 2026 at 12:22 am

    How do you define aesthetic?

    Moreover, if beauty actually means discipline then an artist should paint a symmetric picture rather than complex web of colours that we see.

    I just googled aesthetic, it says

    Aethstic is the branch of philosophy dedicated to the systematic study of beauty, art, taste, and sensory perception.

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