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What Is Islam?
Posted by Safwan Shadab on September 1, 2026 at 1:15 pmA man named Bin Umar said that all the things mentioned in the Quran that people would never have done if the Quran had not said, are only Islamic laws modified through the Prophet Muhammad. – How reasonable is this statement?
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What Is Islam?
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar September 1, 2026 at 11:37 pmProvide the reference, please.
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Safwan Shadab
Member September 2, 2026 at 12:15 pmAs evidence, he argued that the definition of Islam has been determined by reason. The Lord has prescribed in the Qur’an certain acts as part of Islam that people would not have performed if they had not been commanded to do so in the Qur’an. This is because, if He had prescribed only acts that people would have done even without being commanded—meaning acts that are inherently considered good—it would not have been possible to determine who was performing them because the Lord had commanded them and who was performing them for some other reason. In that case, a person could have performed an act either because the Lord commanded it or simply because they considered the act good.
However, the Lord wanted to see—and demonstrate—who performs these acts specifically because He commanded them.
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar September 2, 2026 at 11:36 pmFrom what I could understand from your post, I will try to answer it.
The factual position, as I understand it, is that the sense of right and wrong is innate in human beings. God has based His commands on this inherent moral sense.
As far as the rituals of worship are concerned, however, they are revealed by God. Human beings cannot arrive at or conceive of these rituals through reason alone; they can only know them through divine revelation.
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Safwan Shadab
Member September 5, 2026 at 11:17 amThat’s what he meant. In that case, it seems that stealing, committing adultery, lying, these are not matters of Islam. Is that your idea too?
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Waleed Ahmed
Member September 5, 2026 at 11:34 amAfter death, everything doesn’t end. We have to rise up again and be answerable about all of our deeds, be it WORSHIP or MORALS. This is foretold to us by Allah and is an integral part of Islam.
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Waleed Ahmed.
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Safwan Shadab
Member September 5, 2026 at 11:42 amHowever, according to him, this is not a part of Islam; rather, it is a part of Iman (faith).
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Safwan Shadab
Member September 5, 2026 at 12:12 pmDo you have any evidence or reasoning to support your argument?
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar September 7, 2026 at 5:46 amIt is part of nature. Then comes Sharia (law), which prescribes penalties for committing certain crimes and warns that your accountability awaits; so do not betray your conscience or God’s warnings.
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Safwan Shadab
Member September 7, 2026 at 7:18 amHe also said that the Qur’anic messages related to matters of faith—such as warnings about the Hereafter or descriptions of Allah—have nothing to do with Islam. Rather, according to him, Islam consists only of those messages that give specific instructions to perform certain actions which people would not have performed had the Lord not commanded them.
The purpose of such commands, he argues, is to distinguish between those who perform an action because of His command and those who do not, and to make this distinction apparent to others. However, this is not possible in matters of faith, because faith is internal and therefore cannot be accurately demonstrated to others. Similarly, if the commanded action is something that people would naturally recognize as good and appropriate even without divine instruction, then performing it does not necessarily demonstrate that it was done solely because of the Lord’s command.
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Dr. Irfan Shahzad
Scholar September 7, 2026 at 10:50 pmThis statement is ignorant of the facts we observe. I have shared my views. You can read the Qur’an and observe human nature and then can decide.
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Safwan Shadab
Member September 11, 2026 at 1:38 amWhich part of the definition of Islam he has provided do you object to? In other words, has he included something that you do not, or has he omitted something that you include?
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