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Age Of Aisha R.a.
https://www.abc.se/home/m9783/ir/d/aam2_e.pdf
What would we say to this.
I am asking as a historical fact as even if she was nine it’s not really a problem.
Khawla wanted to propose a widow and *a virgin* to the Prophet ﴾ﷺ﴿ .Furthermore she was first thinking about his emotional wellbeing, not just household duties and taking care of children, after all two of his daughters were already married and the other two were growing up and able to perform some household duties themselves.
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Age Of Aisha R.a.
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Bhai for the engagement argument they it was a betrothal and very common in those societies that when they are older they will get married.
As for hazrat khawla suggesting they say she wanted to suggest both a virgin and a widow for house duties and sexual relations
As fore age of asma رضي الله عنها they say it is a later historical assumption that cannot abrogate Aisha رضي الله عنها own words
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Also the argument that Hisham forgot ashara has no evidence. His memory was only weak at the end of his life and not so bad.
Nevertheless, for argument’s sake, even if we do consider Hishām’s narrations to be weak, there are other narrations without Hishām in their chains that prove Aishāh Radhiyallāhu Anhā’s age to be six at the time of marriage and nine at the time she started to reside with Rasūlullāh Sallallāhu Alaihi Wa Sallam. Imām Muslim narrates
the following Hadīth in which Hishām is not in the chain:
حدثنا يحيL بن يحيL، وإسحاق بن إبراهيم، وأبو بكر بن أبي شيبة، وأبو كريب، قال يحيL، وإسحاق: أخبرنا، وقال الآخران: حدثنا أبو معاوية، عن الأعمش، عن إبراهيم، عن الأسود، عن عائشة، قالت: »تزوجها رسول الله صلL الله عليه وسلم وهي بنت ست، وبنL بها وهي
بنت تسع، ومات عنها وهي بنت ثمان عشرة )صحيح مسلم، ج 2، ص 1039، دار إحياء التراث العربي – بيروت(
Aishah Radhiyallāhu Anhā reports that Rasūlullāh Sallallāhu Alaihi Wa Sallam married her when she was six years old, he started living with her when she was nine years old, and he passed away when she was eighteen years old.
(Sahīh Muslim)
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ال الحسن بن صالح: »أدركت جارة لنا جدة، بنت إحدى وعشرين سنة )صحيح البخاري، ج
5، ص 562، دار البشائر الاسلامية(
Hasan bin Sālih Rahimahullāh said: I came to know of my neighbor who became a grandmother at the age of twenty one.
(Sahīh al-Bukhārī)
This indicates that the woman must have been married when she was nine, gave birth when she was ten, and the same situation took place with her daughter.
Shows it was a common thing
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As Ghamidi sahab stated that this is history, not a matter of religion. Even that history was written after roughly 200 years, so there’s definitely room for error. He has raised some very valid questions that no rational mind can ignore. Other than that, no one can really establish the truth beyond any reasonable doubt.
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If the history is true then it doesn’t make sense for a prophet of God to do this
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There are multiple accounts of her direct age being 6 at the time of marriage and 9 at the time of consummation. There was almost no doubt on this part of “history” among Muslim scholars for centuries. I would be interested to know when exactly the doubts about her age started being raised among Muslim scholars and community. If these questions started ONLY when this became morally objectionable in the modern society, then it raises doubts on the honesty of these questions. We can’t reject a part of history/hadith because it is uncomfortable to digest.
However, if these hadiths were doubted by Muslim scholars even in 1000AD, then it is an academic question.
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There are many sahih hadiths that were accepted for 1000 years without doubt but with present scientific knowledge we cannot accept them. So according to your logic if there were no questions asked about these reports before and are asked only now because of scientific advancement we cannot question such hadiths. So how are we supposed to deal with them?
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Here a reputed scholar Dr. Yasir Qadhi is asking Muslims to not “lie for the religion” , and “deal with it”.
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Multiple accounts doesn’t make anything certain – they still remain ahaad narrations. Also it doesn’t raise any doubts on questions regardless of when they surfaced up. As in every field of knowledge, most of the time people only critically analyze anything when they find a need to do so.
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No amount of details will make anything certain, but if so many accounts are independently saying the same thing, it makes a solid case of it being true. That’s the way history works, unless there is a contrary evidence to reject that.
“As in every field of knowledge, most of the time people only critically analyze anything when they find a need to do so.”
If this hadith is doubted, ONLY because it is morally an uncomfortable thing in current society, it is not an honest and valid reason. Societal norms keep changing, and as Yasir Qadhi said, this fact being embarrassing can’t be the valid reason to deny it.
However, if these hadiths are independently doubted because their isnaad is not satisfactory, it is a different but academic question.
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Its sad to see both Muslims and non muslim have agreed on rhis topic. Non Muslims raise questions and Muslim defend the age of Hazrat Ayesha at the time of marriage. Thus allow people to mock the Prohphet and to raise questions on the impeccable and moral personality of Prophet Muhammad AS. The concerns of non muslims r not merely the age of Hazrat Ayesha but the age difference between her and the Prophet. they ridicule him for keeping an eye on a 6 yrs old child who was his friends daughter and younger than his own grandchildren. just Imagine the scenario in todays time and age when children maturing at much faster rate than the past. its wrong to assume that people were maturing at faster rate in the past. its a ridiculous claim with no basis. infact the contrary is true. I have no doubt that this story has been created to raise a question about our beloved Prophet Muhammad AS moral character.
Quran is the best Hadith and its true that it is a message of Allah SWT but came to us through Prophet Mohammad mouth so in fact we can safely say that its the best authetic hadtrh.
How its possible that He is telling us something and doing something else. To me 4:6 clearly define the age of marriage coincides with the age of financial maturity. A 6 and 9 cant have either no matter what people say. Even for todays time and age when kids r taught financial matters in elementry school. 9 yrs old child know nothing about financial matters nor mature enough to make any decision let alone financial or marriage. A person has to be BALIGH and RUSHDA to get married. Muslims should stop this baseless debate and should go back to the Quran. Prophet Muhammad Best Hadith. Ashan Hadith..
Prove orphans till they reach the marriageable age; then, if ye find them of sound judgment, deliver over unto them their fortune; and devour it not by squandering and in haste lest they..Quran 4:6
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Regarding the tradition of Hazrat Aisha’s marriage and consummation at a young age, there are several aspects worth considering:
After the death of Hazrat Khadija, the proposal for this marriage was made to provide companionship and to fulfill domestic responsibilities. It is unreasonable to expect a six-year-old child to handle these responsibilities.
One perspective is that since the calendar was established much later, during the caliphate of Hazrat Umar, ages before this time were estimated. Hazrat Aisha might have reported her age at the time of marriage and consummation as an approximation, which could account for a few years’ difference.
Similarly, there is the matter of her age at the time of her death, which historians claim was 66 years in the year 58 Hijri. Subtracting 58 from 66 results in an age of 8 years at the time of migration. However, it is not necessary that her actual age was precisely 66; a few years’ difference is also possible.
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Does ghamidi sahab also believe in 3 years gap between marriage and consummation? If yes, then how come companionship and household duties argument holds even in ghamidi sb argument since Prophet PBUH have to wait three years to get companionship and someone to look after the home chores
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The holy prophet married Hazrat Sawda first and she was doing the job, later he married Hazrat Ayesha.
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Then how come Ghamidi sb argument holds weight since Hazrat Sawda RA was already doing the three tasks which are necessary component of the marriage as outlined by Ghamidi sb
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It is argued that Hazrat Ayesha was not able to do that kind of duties of a mature woman. It does not alter the fact, even if Hazrat Sawda was doing the job. Moreover, in the Arab every woman lived in a separate house.
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